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:Generally, we use the WikiProject as an incubator (though my script also blacklists straight from there), and the bad stuff goes to the Spam Blacklist page. The poke-page is nice if you want to refresh a report. Hope this helps. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 03:38, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
:Generally, we use the WikiProject as an incubator (though my script also blacklists straight from there), and the bad stuff goes to the Spam Blacklist page. The poke-page is nice if you want to refresh a report. Hope this helps. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 03:38, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
::OK, cool. Thanks for the info. I think poke might be what I'm interested in. Regards, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 03:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
::OK, cool. Thanks for the info. I think poke might be what I'm interested in. Regards, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 03:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

== Link to YouTube ==

Hi, is a link to official YouTube channel of a Football Federation considered illegal on Wikipedia? Your bot reverted my changes (removing the link), but article about legal links is too biiig to read it all, so i've considered more efficient to ask you directly. Thank You [[Special:Contributions/89.28.5.39|89.28.5.39]] ([[User talk:89.28.5.39|talk]]) 18:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

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I will respond to talk messages where they started, trying to keep discussions in one place (you may want to watch this page for some time after adding a question). Otherwise I will clearly state where the discussion will be moved/copied to. Though, with the large number of pages I am watching, it may be wise to contact me here as well if you need a swift response. If I forget to answer, poke me.

I preserve the right not to answer to non-civil remarks, or subjects which are covered in this talk-header.

ON EXTERNAL LINK REMOVAL

There are several discussions about my link removal here, and in my archives. If you want to contact me about my view of this policy, please read and understand WP:NOT, WP:EL, WP:SPAM and WP:A, and read the discussions on my talkpage or in my archives first.

My view in a nutshell:
External links are not meant to tunnel people away from the wikipedia.

Hence, I will remove external links on pages where I think they do not add to the page (per WP:NOT#REPOSITORY and WP:EL), or when they are added in a way that wikipedia defines as spam (understand that wikipedia defines spam as: '... wide-scale external link spamming ...', even if the link is appropriate; also read this). This may mean that I remove links, while similar links are already there or which are there already for a long time. Still, the question is not whether your link should be there, the question may be whether those other links should be there (again, see the wording of the policies and guidelines).

Please consider the alternatives before re-adding the link:

  • If the link contains information, use the information to add content to the article, and use the link as a reference (content is not 'see here for more information').
  • Add an appropriate linkfarm like {{dmoz}} (you can consider to remove other links covered in the dmoz).
  • Incorporate the information into one of the sister projects.
  • Add the link to other mediawiki projects aimed at advertiseing (see e.g. this)

If the linkspam of a certain link perseveres, I will not hesitate to report it to the wikiproject spam for blacklisting (even if the link would be appropriate for wikipedia). It may be wise to consider the alternatives before things get to that point.

The answer in a nutshell
Please consider if the link you want to add complies with the policies and guidelines.

If you have other questions, or still have questions on my view of the external link policy, disagree with me, or think I made a mistake in removing a link you added, please poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page. If you absolutely want an answer, you can try to poke the people at WT:EL or WT:WPSPAM on your specific case. Also, regarding link, I can be contacted on IRC, channel [1].

Reliable sources

I convert inline URL's into references and convert referencing styles to a consistent format. My preferred style is the style provided by cite.php (<ref> and <references/>). When other mechanisms are mainly (but not consistently) used (e.g. {{ref}}/{{note}}/{{cite}}-templates) I will assess whether referencing would benefit from the cite.php-style. Feel free to revert these edits when I am wrong.

Converting inline URLs in references may result in data being retrieved from unreliable sources. In these cases, the link may have been removed, and replaced by a {{cn}}. If you feel that the page should be used as a reference (complying with wp:rs!!), please discuss that on the talkpage of the page, or poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page

Note: I am working with some other developers on mediawiki to expand the possibilities of cite.php, our attempts can be followed here and here. If you like these features and want them enabled, please vote for these bugs.

Stub/Importance/Notability/Expand/Expert

I am in general against deletion, except when the page really gives misinformation, is clear spam or copyvio. Otherwise, these pages may need to be expanded or rewritten. For very short articles there are the different {{stub}} marks, which clearly state that the article is to be expanded. For articles that do not state why they are notable, I will add either {{importance}} or {{notability}}. In my view there is a distinct difference between these two templates, while articles carrying one of these templates may not be notable, the first template does say the article is probably notable enough, but the contents does not state that (yet). The latter provides a clear concern that the article is not notable, and should probably be {{prod}}ed or {{AfD}}ed. Removing importance-tags does not take away the backlog, it only hides from attention, deleting pages does not make the database smaller. If you contest the notability/importance of an article, please consider adding an {{expert-subject}} tag, or raise the subject on an appropriate wikiproject. Remember, there are many, many pages on the wikipedia, many need attention, so maybe we have to live with a backlog.

Having said this, I generally delete the {{expand}}-template on sight. The template is in most cases superfluous, expansion is intrinsic to the wikipedia (for stubs, expansion is already mentioned in that template).

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Reactionbox template concern

Someone raised a concern about two templates you had worked on...Template talk:Reactionbox#Calls to non-existent templates. I haven't looked at the reactionbox world in too long to be able to give any input yet. DMacks (talk) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC) Hope you don't mind my cleanup of the sections preceding this one...I couldn't even find my own message:) DMacks (talk) 19:27, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page and specially career section of this person seems to be edited by either Shirish himself or his well wisher. Its biased and does not mentions the failures and controversies of this person. I tried to add some events with reference(from Wikipedia and popular newpapers) and I am not sure why they are being removed.

Please look at tees mar khan (film), Joker(film 2012) reviewsavailable on wikipedia and edit shirish kunder's page accordingly. Even his short film published of youtube ran into controversy is deliberately skipped on his wiki page. Please do the needful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvingle (talkcontribs) 11:33, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Kvingle: You can make the page less biased as you wish, but do not remove information that is referenced, even if it points in one direction. I do know that this is a WP:BLP, and that, according to the Wikipedia article, there has been controversy with one of his movies. You say it is overly positive, and that may be true, but then that may also mean that negative information (and likely, especially negative information), needs high quality sources. One does not make an article less biased by removing properly referenced positive information ..
Besides that, your edits resulted in one sentence being repeated 3 times. That is anyway not the purpose. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:50, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COIBot report on call?

Hi DB, hope all's well with you. Is it possible to get the COIBot to run one of these reports on a domain without reporting the domain at the spam blacklist page? I sometimes come across links but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort of recommending a blacklist addition. It seems like if I could check it out beforehand, that would be a better approach sometimes--you know to see if we're talking about one guy spamming the link or a dozen IPs and ten accounts. Thank you, sir! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyphoidbomb: If you're on IRC, in one of the channels where COIBot is lurking, request 'report <domain>', and the bot will save a report.
On-wiki, there are on en.wikipedia 3 places (2 on meta): the spam blacklist, WikiProject Spam talkpage, and User:COIBot/Poke (the middle one is missing on meta).
Generally, we use the WikiProject as an incubator (though my script also blacklists straight from there), and the bad stuff goes to the Spam Blacklist page. The poke-page is nice if you want to refresh a report. Hope this helps.  ??--Dirk Beetstra T C 03:38, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, cool. Thanks for the info. I think poke might be what I'm interested in. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, is a link to official YouTube channel of a Football Federation considered illegal on Wikipedia? Your bot reverted my changes (removing the link), but article about legal links is too biiig to read it all, so i've considered more efficient to ask you directly. Thank You 89.28.5.39 (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]