Talk:Pomerelia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 03:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Eastern Pomerania → Pomerelia

Pomerelia is the correct name for the territory per WP:NC(GN) proposals. In English, eastern Pomerania is not always the same as Pomerelia, the subject of this article. The term “eastern Pomerania” is a descriptive that is better served by using the actual name of the territory, Pomerelia. (C.f. Pomesania) This was the named used by the Duchy of Pomerelia as seen in online references below. The term “eastern Pomerania” is ambiguous and can refer to the eastern part of the Duchy of Pomerania (i.e., Farther Pomerania) whereas Pomerelia refers to the area of subject in this article as seen in these maps (from Muir):

File:Pomerania&WestPrussiaMap.jpg File:PomereliaMap.jpg

Pomerelia is marked as such on the following maps:

• Periodical Historical Atlas
• Historical Atlas by William R. Shepherd
• Muir’s Historical Atlas: Medieval and Modern. Tenth edition. 1964.

Pomerelia is noted in the following:

• History Channel UK Encyclopedia – Prussia
• Columbia Encyclopedia – Pomerania
• Regnal Chronologies – Poland and the Baltics
• World Statesmen – Poland

In addition to online sources, a search of print materials on academic search engines such as JSTOR or ABC-Clio Historical Abstracts shows “eastern Pomerania” usually used as a descriptive (with a lower case “e”) while Pomerelia is used on several occasions to describe both the duchy and the region and is the term used in the translation of Polish and German article titles (ABC-Clio). In many cases “eastern Pomerania” does not refer to Pomerelia but to the eastern part of the Duchy of Pomerania. Google Books searches (groan!) of Eastern Pomerania and Pomerelia reveal similar results.

As the Columbia Encyclopedia article on Pomerania notes, Pomerania “was split into two principalities. Pomerelia, as E Pomerania came to be known, became independent in 1227, was annexed to Poland in 1294, and was taken in 1308-9 by the Teutonic Knights , who incorporated it into their domain in East Prussia. The histories of Pomerania and Pomerelia after 1308 must be traced separately.”

-  AjaxSmack  18:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey

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• Support as nominee. -  AjaxSmack  18:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support. This article is primarily about the historical state (also spelled "Pomerellia"). "Eastern Pomerania" can refer to Pomerelia, Hinterpommern, etc. Olessi 00:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

• If this is renamed, eastern Pomerania should be turned into a dab page then. 132.205.44.134 22:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move completed - dab needed?

Per the comment in the Discussion section above, Eastern Pomerania should probably be a dab page now. Perhaps someone more knowledgable than I could go ahead and do that? I've taken care of the deletion and move, which is the only part that required admin tools. -GTBacchus^(talk) 03:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)