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*'''Keep''' or '''merge''' to [[Sahaja Yoga]]. As far as I know the practice and the organization are closely related and the term "Sahaja Yoga" (306,000 ghits) may refer to either or both. --[[User:KFP|KFP]] <small>([[User talk:KFP|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/KFP|contribs]])</small> 14:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' or '''merge''' to [[Sahaja Yoga]]. As far as I know the practice and the organization are closely related and the term "Sahaja Yoga" (306,000 ghits) may refer to either or both. --[[User:KFP|KFP]] <small>([[User talk:KFP|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/KFP|contribs]])</small> 14:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


*'''Keep''' - Sahaja Yoga practicioners are counted in their hundreds of thousands. You can go anywhere in India and people will know about it. Non-notable? It has appeared in many leading newspapers. Sahaja Yoga international differs from Sahaja Yoga in that it is a registered NGO whereas Sahaja Yoga is a form of meditation. [[Nirmala Srivastava]] has had considerable press coverage both because of the NGO side of SY as well as the spiritual/meditational.
*'''Keep''' - Sahaja Yoga practicioners are counted in their hundreds of thousands. You can go anywhere in India and people will know about it. Non-notable? It has appeared in many leading newspapers. Sahaja Yoga international differs from Sahaja Yoga in that it is a registered NGO whereas Sahaja Yoga is a form of meditation. [[Nirmala Srivastava]] has had considerable press coverage both because of the NGO side of SY as well as the spiritual/meditational. Sahaja Yoga is a registered organisation and NGO in quite a few countries. Calling a spiritual practice a cult is POV. And besides, if you consider SY a cult (as is your right) - it shouldn't be a reason for exclusion. '''note:'''I strongly suspect bias in this AFD proposal - why is [[User:NovaSTL]], a user who signed up ''a day ago'' nominating an article for deletion? [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=NovaSTL]] [[User:Sfacets|Sfacets]] 20:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
** Nope, not a biased nom. I'd never heard of this organization until yesterday when I was on newpage patrol, and ran across [[Vishwa Nirmal Prem Ashram]], which appeared to be spam, so I tagged it with {{tl|db-spam}}. The tag was removed with a rude comment, so I proceeded to a prod, which was also removed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vishwa_Nirmal_Prem_Ashram&action=history], so the next step was AfD. Rather than submitting just that article though, I decided to proceed to the "root" article, which is this one, which also appears (in my opinion) to be spam. Now let me be clear that the ''practice'' of [[Sahaja Yoga]] appears notable, but the organization known as "Sahaja Yoga International" does not. This article also appears to be a hub for multiple other non-notable entities, such as [[Vishwa Nirmal Prem Ashram]] and [[International Sahaja Public School]], other spam articles (go read it, you'll see what I mean). These all appear to have been created in an ongoing campaign to use Wikipedia to create articles on these peripheral activities, even though they are not independently notable. The articles should therefore either be deleted, or merged into the article about Sahaja Yoga. --[[User:NovaSTL|NovaSTL]] 23:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Sahaja Yoga is a registered organisation and NGO in quite a few countries.

Calling a spiritual practice a cult is POV. And besides, if you consider SY a cult (as is your right) - it shouldn't be a reason for exclusion.

'''note:'''I strongly suspect bias in this AFD proposal - why is [[User:NovaSTL]], a user who signed up ''a day ago'' nominating an article for deletion? [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=NovaSTL]]

[[User:Sfacets|Sfacets]] 20:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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Sahaja Yoga International

Non-notable cult, does not pass WP:CORP. Fewer than 1000 Google hits, and no references from credible sources. --NovaSTL 06:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of what it is, is it notable? -Will Beback 07:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Sahaja Yoga practicioners are counted in their hundreds of thousands. You can go anywhere in India and people will know about it. Non-notable? It has appeared in many leading newspapers. Sahaja Yoga international differs from Sahaja Yoga in that it is a registered NGO whereas Sahaja Yoga is a form of meditation. Nirmala Srivastava has had considerable press coverage both because of the NGO side of SY as well as the spiritual/meditational. Sahaja Yoga is a registered organisation and NGO in quite a few countries. Calling a spiritual practice a cult is POV. And besides, if you consider SY a cult (as is your right) - it shouldn't be a reason for exclusion. note:I strongly suspect bias in this AFD proposal - why is User:NovaSTL, a user who signed up a day ago nominating an article for deletion? [[1]] Sfacets 20:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nope, not a biased nom. I'd never heard of this organization until yesterday when I was on newpage patrol, and ran across Vishwa Nirmal Prem Ashram, which appeared to be spam, so I tagged it with {{db-spam}}. The tag was removed with a rude comment, so I proceeded to a prod, which was also removed [2], so the next step was AfD. Rather than submitting just that article though, I decided to proceed to the "root" article, which is this one, which also appears (in my opinion) to be spam. Now let me be clear that the practice of Sahaja Yoga appears notable, but the organization known as "Sahaja Yoga International" does not. This article also appears to be a hub for multiple other non-notable entities, such as Vishwa Nirmal Prem Ashram and International Sahaja Public School, other spam articles (go read it, you'll see what I mean). These all appear to have been created in an ongoing campaign to use Wikipedia to create articles on these peripheral activities, even though they are not independently notable. The articles should therefore either be deleted, or merged into the article about Sahaja Yoga. --NovaSTL 23:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]