User talk:Farhadus

With reference to foot notes 17,18, and 19: Fritz Meier, Anna Merie Schimmel, Frank Lewis and all other so called authorities on Rumi do not even speak Rumi's language: Dari or classic Farsi. So how could they conduct research in Wakhsh or Balkh in Afghanistan to identify Rumi's birthplace? Rumi himself refers to Balkh in his Mathnawi as his birthplace. In the introduction to Shams e Tabrisi, he himself explains where he comes from and how he traveled to Koyna over Naishapur. That is enough to accept that he was from Balkh. No where in Mathnawi or other sources, Waksh is even mentioned. Where is the evidence.

As a student I have met Anna Merie Schimmel at the University of Freiburg im Breisgau in Germany (1987). She does not speak one word of Persian, Tajiki or Dari. She speaks Turkish. Waksh is in central Asia and ruled by Turks for many centuries. Fritz Meier at that time was in Basel and received a Dr.Hon. from Freiburg. He did not speak Farsi. Dr Frank Lewis is currently at the University of Chicago. I have corresponded with him and he does not speak the language nor has he conducted research on Rumi's origin.

Furthermore, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, in his book "Islamic Art and Spirituality", explain the genealogy(Suny Press, 1987. p. 115): "Jalal al-Din was born in a major center of Persian culture, Balkh, from Persian speaking parents, and is the product of that Islamic Persian culture which in the 7th/13th century dominated the 'whole of the eastern lands of Islam and to which present day Persians as well as Turks, Afghans, Central Asian Muslims and the Muslims of the Indo-Pakistani and the Muslims of the Indo-Pakistani subcontinent are heir. It is precisely in this world that the sun of his spiritual legacy has shone most brilliantly during the past seven centuries. The father of Jalal al-Din, Muhammad ibn Husayn Khatibi, known as Baha al-Din Walad and entitled Sultan al-'ulama', was an outstanding Sufi in Balkh connected to the spiritual lineage of Najm al-Din Kubra." I have studied at the George Washington University under Nasr and have a degree.

It is astonishing that a few Westerners assume an authority and create "facts". And why Wikipedia is so stubborn to objectively look at the fact before deciding to "assign" nationality to Rumi on its website? May be one should investigate if Shakespeare was Irish!

August 2018

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Al-Biruni, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:34, 22 August 2018 (UTC) the article contains inaccurate and biased information about Rumi. He was not Iranian. He war born in Balkh and that city is in Afghanistan. At the time of his birth or life, Iran did not rule Afghanistan. There is a reference by Anna Marie Schimmel. Late in her life, she collaborated with Sayyed Housein Nasr and errouneouly asserted that Rumi may have come from Waksh in Tajistan.

We need reliable sources on Wikipedia, not user's opinions. The fact that Iran ruled Afghanistan or not at that time is irrelevant. For example many Iranian scholars emerged during the Turkish and Mongol rule over Iran (Al-Tusi, Al-Kashi, Khayyam ...), with your flawed rationale, we should say that they're Turks or Mongols. The only point that matters with Rumi is that we have reliable sources listing him as Iranian. End of.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Nonses. Balkh is in Afghanistan and Khawarzm Shah (Turk) ruled Central Asia at the time when Rumi was born and lived. Bactria is the birthplace of Zoroaster, Rumi, Avicenna and many more. Daqiqi wrote the first 1000 couplets of Shahnameh and it was completed by Ferdowsi, sorry to say, in Ghazni in Afghanistan. Al Biruni had NOTHING to do with Iran. He was from Khawarzam (973–1050), located between Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan.

Anna Marie or Nasr or you are not important. Rumi called himself Balkhi. So we don't need Wikipedia and some scholars to fabricate and practice cultural hegemony.

So what reliable sources do you have that Rumi was from Iran? Rumi never lived in Iran. He spoke Dari, not Farsi. Iranian Farsi is half Arabic and most Iranians can barely read and understand Rumi's writings. What does Rumi have anything to do with Iran? Why does your article state that Rumi was from Balk-Afghanistan if according to your "reliable sources" he war Iranian?

Why suddenly Rumi becomes "Persian" Where did you get your Ph.D. from? The use or reference of Persian by Iranians may have other reasons. Rumi was not an Iranian by any figment of your rationale or definition of what "Persian" is. The problem with marketing Persian is an identity crisis among Iranians. According to the Iranian definition of Persian, then one can call Mozart a German too. He spoke German.

Here a reference to understand the reason for masking everything under the term "Persian"

Mohsen Mobasher, Cultural Trauma and Ethnic Identity Formation Among Iranian Immigrants in the United States; American Behavioral Scientist, Volume 50 Number 1 September 2006 100-117 © 2006 Sage Publications 10.1177/0002764206289656,