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My reverts

I have been asked to state why I keep reverting the user who keeps insisting that ""NBC holiday album" should be listed instead of simply "single". The reason for this is that there is no reason to believe that this song was written for this NBC album. Also because it was released as a single[1][2] and if anything it will be included on their next album "Let Love In" and should be listed under that instead. Hope this helps --T-rex 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That's all I needed to know. --† Ðy§ep§ion † 03:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The release date of "Let Love In" was adjusted to reflect new information from the band's official web site, www.googoodolls.com.

Naming

The official name of the band is The Goo Goo Dolls, not Goo Goo Dolls. Shouldn't this article be named accordingly? Cparker 03:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably --T-rex 04:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I'm moving it.

The offical name of the band is actually "Goo Goo Dolls." 'The' is just added to make it sound more gramatically correct. Their website is www.googoodolls.com, their artist name is listed on iTunes Music Store as Goo Goo Dolls, and not only that, but VH1 lists them as "Goo Goo Dolls." Also, if you look at their biography, everywhere it says "the Goo Goo Dolls," implying that 'the' is not part of their name. You should consider changing this. --Timjurka 23:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, I think he's right. "The" is never capitalized on their website, or on AMG, and half their album covers just have "Goo Goo Dolls." I'll move it back if nobody objects. —Akrabbim 15:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

its just Goo Goo Dolls Siddyjain

Move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move.

Agree: No evidence has been presented that their name is "The Goo Goo Dolls." The word "the" is used only to grammatically refer to the band, as in "the [[Goo Goo Dolls]]", not "[[The Goo Goo Dolls]]" (as Timjurka explained above. —Akrabbim^talk 00:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Nightstallion (?) 07:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The above is a debate?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by T-rex (talk • contribs) .

Not really, but the point is that it's over, and nobody objected. Nightstallion didn't move it until a week after I voted, and nobody else had, so it was safe to move. We had an anon that thought it was still open so I made it more official. —Akrabbim^talk 19:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sex Maggots

It is an urban myth that the Goo Goo Dolls ever had the name the "Sex Maggots". This has been confirmed by John Rzeznik himself on multiple occassions during interviews.

Are you Sure?

InsideCx: The band has been around for quite a while. You started out in Buffalo during the mid-Eighties. Yes, we started out as the Sex Maggots, then became the Goo Goo Dolls, well, and we’re still the Goo Goo Dolls! ([3])

Okay. Well, the verifiability is more uncertain then. I'm not that familiar with them, I was trying to make some of the grammer more clear and wondered why that excerpt was taken out; if it's inaccurate, that's up to you all.

Pretty sure!! Listen to this interview with John Rzeznik. When they bring up a trivia question about the "Sex Maggots", he says it's an urban myth (Around the 6.5 minute mark of the interview). The Goo Goo Dolls do have a song called "Sex Maggot".

NO, this is all true, sorry --T-rex 15:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that they did get their name from an ad in True Detective. But the claim that they were the "Sex Maggots" is completely false, as confirmed by John Rzeznik. I think Mr. Rzeznik knows his band better than you.

I think you should both agree to disagree, since it would appear the band has told conflicting stories about the origin of the name. However, the more widespread tale is that they were called the Sex Maggots, so just please stick with that.

The All Music Guide confirms that they started out as the "Sex Maggots". —Akrabbim 15:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. To me, a spoken interview has more weight than text. For any number of reasons, text is more likely to be inaccurate. As such, if that interview MP3 is accurate (I'm not able to listen to it, so I can't verify it) then I think it should be given more weight.

-- Last Thylacine 20:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name change thing should go in the article. If there are conflicting stories, the article shouldn't just show one; we need some sources, and show the information, not try to piece together the most likely truth ourselves. I remember hearing the Sex Maggots thing on MTV or VH1, so if it's true or false, it's still notable as an urban myth or disputed fact etc. --Scarlet-=Spider-DavE=- 08:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that Wikipedia is about providing factual information. So including an urban myth or disputed fact would seem counterproductive to that end. It would be continuing the propagation of these misconceptions.

Alaska

Just came across this site which talks about an MTV video with the Goo Goo Dolls done with the Alaska Railroad. Worth adding to the article? Feel free too... cluth 08:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stay With You

I fixed the addition that said stay w/ u was number 7 on the billboard 100 b/c it was 7 on adult top 40 not billboard 100. [4]--70.246.16.184 08:56, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all the chart numbers, since they were mostly incorrect. I appreciate people's enthusiasm for the band, but don't be making up chart numbers.

Chart Numbers and Album Sales

I corrected the album sales status, based on http://www.thebulletin.com/archives/2006/september/betterdays.htm , and the chart numbers to reflect the numbers available from the All Music Guide and Billboard online. I also took the liberty of correcting the order of the singles to reflect their dates of release. I'm not certain about the Stay With You chart numbers; if someone could update them and reference where they obtained the information it would be greatly appreciated for verification purposes. I went by the Billboard and AMG numbers online, but I think they may have not updated them. 70.51.61.32 23:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UK Singles Chart Numbers

Does anyone have more information about the UK singles chart numbers for the Goo Goo Dolls? There is very litte information present in the article, and it hasn't been updated in ages. If someone could post revised numbers and cite the information source, it would be appreciated.

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 The name change thing should go in the article.  If there are conflicting stories, the article shouldn't just show one; we need some sources, and show the information, not try to piece together the most likely truth ourselves. I remember hearing the Sex Maggots thing on MTV or VH1, so if it's true or false, it's still notable as an urban myth or disputed fact etc.  --[[User:ScarletSpiderDave|<font color="firebrick">Scarlet</font><font color="mediumblue">-=Spider-DavE=-</font>]] 08:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
+::I would argue that Wikipedia is about providing factual information.  So including an urban myth or disputed fact would seem counterproductive to that end.  It would be continuing the propagation of these misconceptions.
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