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:I struck my original message to you because you were in good faith. Please insert a source into the article. I left links to some helpful Wikipedia info and guideline pages on your talk page. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60#top|talk]]) 03:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
:I struck my original message to you because you were in good faith. Please insert a source into the article. I left links to some helpful Wikipedia info and guideline pages on your talk page. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60#top|talk]]) 03:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Donner60, I think you made a mistake in reverting my edit. I edited [[2020 California Proposition 22]] without adding a source because there are already sources cited in the article documenting the statement I made. The statement is: "The companies have also forced their workers to support and promote the legislation: Uber sends its drivers in-app messages forcing them to click on either "Yes on Prop 22" or "OK", Instacart ordered its workers to place pro-Prop 22 stickers in customers' shopping bags, and DoorDash forces delivery drivers to use bags saying "Yes on 22".<ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-10-23|title=Uber drivers sue, say company 'coerced' them to support Prop 22|url=https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-drivers-sue-they-say-company-coerced-them-to-support-prop-22/|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=2020-10-24|website=CNet|language=en-US}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-10-20|title=Gig Companies Are Making Their Workers Promote Prop. 22|url=https://www.kqed.org/news/11842964/gig-companies-are-making-their-workers-promote-prop-22|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=2020-10-24|website=KQED|language=en-US}}</ref>". Someone else edited this to say that the companies "encouraged" workers to support and promote the legislation. But the sources already cited in the article document that the workers were not "encouraged" to support and promote the legislation, but forced to do so. So I believe that the original wording was accurate. Could you please revert your change? Thanks.[[Special:Contributions/2604:2000:2B82:B700:B960:4BDF:FB0A:6AAF|2604:2000:2B82:B700:B960:4BDF:FB0A:6AAF]] ([[User talk:2604:2000:2B82:B700:B960:4BDF:FB0A:6AAF|talk]]) 01:20, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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Friendly talk page watchers are appreciated. They may respond to questions on or edits to this page, especially when I am unable to respond quickly or when an additional response to an edit, question or comment would be helpful.

Please put comments or questions on new subjects at the very bottom of the page, use a new section heading, refer to the exact title of an article and sign your message with four tildes. That will help me to see that there is something new on the page and will point me to the right article and person to be concerned with. This will allow me to reply faster. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 02:49, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New messages, questions, comments: Put at very bottom of page, see text of this section

Please put new messages at the very bottom of the page. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC) To clarify, the new item should not be below this message and not below the repeated message after my introductory paragraphs but at the very bottom of the page after every other item on the page. It will help me to understand what you are talking about to add a section heading, identify the article you are concerned with (if your question or comment refers to a specific article), using a link, probably putting the article title in the heading, and sign your edit with four tildes (~~~~) so I know to whom to reply. Keep an eye on this page because I may just reply here if the answer is simple and does not seem to be time sensitive. When I notice an out of order question or comment, I will move it to the bottom of the page and provide a heading if there is none already. Donner60 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia policies, guidelines; twitter, facebook; what Wikipedia is not; avoiding common mistakes

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Note that it is proper to use <nowiki> and other technical markup to fix code samples. ...............................

Please put messages, questions or comments at the very bottom of the page, i.e. after every other item on the page. If you put them here (immediately before or after this paragraph), I may either not see them or at least not see them very promptly. That will delay any reply from me to you. Please add a section heading, identify the article you are concerned with, and use a link, (if your question or comment refers to a specific article), probably putting the article name in the heading, and sign your edit with four tildes (~~~~) so I know to whom to reply.

Often I will reply on your talk page and may note or summarize that reply on this page. If you do not get a reply on your talk page, check back here. I may put brief replies here, especially if they do not seem urgent. Keep an eye on this page because I may just reply here, especially if the answer seems simple and does not seem to be time sensitive. If you have a user name, I will try to remember to ping you if I just leave a return message here. As far as I know, IP addresses cannot be pinged. When I notice a question or comment that was not placed at the bottom of the page, I will move it to the bottom of the page and provide a heading if there is not already a heading. Donner60 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you put a question or comment on this page but not at the bottom of the page despite the above request, and you can not find it if you check back, I have moved it to the bottom of the page in a new section with an appropriate heading if there was none. If your edit was disruptive, vandalism, uncivil, nonsensical or abusive, and you do not find the edit on this page, it is because I have deleted it. In most such cases, I will also put another warning on your talk page, but will not otherwise reply to it. (I will reply, however, if you then leave a civil and reasonable followup with a legitimate question or comment and some reference or reasonable explanation.) Donner60 (talk) 11:17, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link and bracket bot notifications

I occasionally get one of these notices. I fix the link or bracket, then delete the message, as the messages state is permissible, instead of further cluttering up these pages. Donner60 (talk) 05:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Korean Englishman

Hello,

The edit on the Korean Englishman page was deleted because of the lack of source. I did not mention the source because it was coming from their main YouTube channel. The direct link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQzvV_yGMM

There are plenty of other sources like this one: https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/10/josh-of-the-popular-youtube-channel-korean-englishman-feels-responsible-for-his-wife-gabiekooks-actions-and-states-he-will-stop-his-activities

Regards 125.237.38.145 (talk) 04:53, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I struck my original message to you because you were in good faith. Please insert a source into the article. I left links to some helpful Wikipedia info and guideline pages on your talk page. Donner60 (talk) 03:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Donner60, I think you made a mistake in reverting my edit. I edited 2020 California Proposition 22 without adding a source because there are already sources cited in the article documenting the statement I made. The statement is: "The companies have also forced their workers to support and promote the legislation: Uber sends its drivers in-app messages forcing them to click on either "Yes on Prop 22" or "OK", Instacart ordered its workers to place pro-Prop 22 stickers in customers' shopping bags, and DoorDash forces delivery drivers to use bags saying "Yes on 22".[1][2]". Someone else edited this to say that the companies "encouraged" workers to support and promote the legislation. But the sources already cited in the article document that the workers were not "encouraged" to support and promote the legislation, but forced to do so. So I believe that the original wording was accurate. Could you please revert your change? Thanks.2604:2000:2B82:B700:B960:4BDF:FB0A:6AAF (talk) 01:20, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Uber drivers sue, say company 'coerced' them to support Prop 22". CNet. 2020-10-23. Retrieved 2020-10-24.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ "Gig Companies Are Making Their Workers Promote Prop. 22". KQED. 2020-10-20. Retrieved 2020-10-24.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)