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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 68.39.107.246 (talk) at 22:22, 13 January 2007 (→‎Hearing these tones is not news to me.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I edited "The story goes back to 2005, when a British inventor named Howard Stapleton came up with a security device designed to keep teenagers from congregating outside of shops late at night, as well as taking up space and driving away the money-spending customers during the day." by removing the bold section to make the article more neutral.

Gorrilazfan - how was that vandalism? I replaced a link that DOESN'T WORK (The comcast one) with one that does. 69.114.71.246 14:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Comcast one works perfectly fine, the New York Times one has is the broken one, do not change it again.--GorillazFan Adam 19:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok. Before it wasn't working, it just brought me to a page with many articles listed. 69.114.71.246 20:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, I noticed that the New York Times link now asks for registration, and I think the Comcast link is too short a text. I found a more complete article on the Herald Tribune Technology, and added it on our External Links. I think the Comcast and NYT articles should be removed to cleanup the list, and perhaps we could write an observation such as “more links on our Talk Page” (this page). I posted below many more links. Zumbitone 22:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still on links, yesterday I posted a major expansion to the article, and removed the Stub status. All the information I added was basically copied and pasted from Internet sources, nothing came out of my own mind. My sources are listed below for verification, they were too many for adding to the article:

Article at Journal Gazette Article at eSchool Article at Projo.com Article at IcWales Article at Money.com Article at WHAS11

Article at The Age Article at Jerusalem Post Zumbitone 22:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mp3 formatted files are not exactly at the correct frequency. The closest you can get to the actual ringtone: http://www.jetcityorange.com/toys/17KHz.wav. Bachtaed 05:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mp3 is definitely not suitable. I edited the page to link to a FLAC file, which is both a patent-free OGG and a lossless codec, for the highest possible fidelty. Aelwyn 13:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It should probably be mentioned somewhere in the article that some cheap computer speakers are unable to generate any sounds of that frequency, which may explain why some young people cannot hear the tone. --Mad Max 20:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Riza: When was the "Ultrasonic Teen Repellant" Introduced? November 2005?

Dubious Sources

Hey everyone.

There are no links apart from those supporting the claims of the so-called inventor.

There is only a stub for presbycusis - which also contains links to the device.

Finally, rather than focusing on computer speakers, why not ask how such tones could be generated on a cell phone as is alleged.

I smell a hoax.

-If you have a son or a daughter, now is the time to use him or her :) :) :), this isn't a hoax, it works, I'm 15, I thought theres a link to bbc? anyways... lets remove those sources.... dubious indeed

By the way, the last comment, (above) was made by me, I also took the liberty of deleting an URL, revert if I'm wrong, or discuss here. Reeves 23:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hearing these tones is not news to me.

Hello there,

I would like to know if anyone else has heard these tones elsewhere.

Personally, since I was less than 10 years old I would hear such noises from electrical devices. Particularly when a television is on "Sleep" mode (i.e. you turned it off with remote control [usually a red LED is on TV to tell you it is in "Sleep" mode]; as opposed to turning it off with button on TV box.); I would hear a nagging noise; and eventually I would have to turn the TV fully off, from the button on the box.

Also, as I was listening to the MP3s in the links section of this article I found that I could hear the 16746hz at my normal speaker volume level, then I had to start turning my volume up for the 17000hz, didn't test above that; but if I moved my head away from where the sound was being projected it would not be heard (so I was perpendicular but off to the side).

from Jawboot. --Jawboot 23:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC) That is because the higher the sound is, the less it spreads out. It has something to do with the wavelengths. This also makes this ringtone useful because other people can't hear it if you are pointing it at yourself[reply]