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Paid editing
Re: WP:FCOI, "An editor has a financial conflict of interest when they write about a topic with which they have a close financial relationship. This includes being an owner..." That was an instance of clear-as-a-bell PAID. It says so in the section, and it deserved a block. And all the long badgering was a violation of WP:PAYTALK. Form the POV of a non-admin, it the admins are not going to help out in these situations, it makes being an editor here difficult. --- Possibly (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly, I was trying to explain the difference between "financial COI" and "paid editing". Paid editing is one (common) form of financial COIs, but it isn't the only possible form of a financial COI. The quoted section of the COI guideline describes exactly this difference. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- The section of the policy is called "Paid editing". In the section, various types of FCOI are described, which both require disclosure. The text about "An editor has a financial conflict of interest" is not a get-out-of-jail free card for business owners and shareholders of companies to come in here and disrupt our normal processes without disclosing that they have a financial stake. In this case the editor had voted at an AFD without disclosure of their COI/PAID status (they came clean later), and was bludgeoning every discussion they were in. They also had zero interest in contributing to Wikipedia outside of their narrow company interests; in short, they were wasting everyone's time. This is precisely the type of situation where we need a person with a block button, so we can get on with things without being disrupted by those with a financial interest int he outcome of our work.--- Possibly (talk) 19:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly, you can probably safely ignore them if that's your concern. The closing administrator will not be influenced by the bludgeoning, and I don't expect continued disruption after the deletion discussion. There is currently no reason to assume that blocking the editor has any helpful preventative effect; any possible damage is already done. Interacting with the editor in the current situation only fuels an unnecessary fire. I'd be happy if you could reconsider this situation, and Special:Diff/1010867300, after a few weeks (I promise to do so too). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry but in this case you missed the point. You could have gently warned them or pblocked them from the AFD, which they have very much influenced. Ignoring it and saying effectively don't worry about it, when three editors have pointedly complained about it, is not helpful. I've never taken issue with an admin's point of view, but I do with this.--- Possibly (talk) 20:04, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly, you can probably safely ignore them if that's your concern. The closing administrator will not be influenced by the bludgeoning, and I don't expect continued disruption after the deletion discussion. There is currently no reason to assume that blocking the editor has any helpful preventative effect; any possible damage is already done. Interacting with the editor in the current situation only fuels an unnecessary fire. I'd be happy if you could reconsider this situation, and Special:Diff/1010867300, after a few weeks (I promise to do so too). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- The section of the policy is called "Paid editing". In the section, various types of FCOI are described, which both require disclosure. The text about "An editor has a financial conflict of interest" is not a get-out-of-jail free card for business owners and shareholders of companies to come in here and disrupt our normal processes without disclosing that they have a financial stake. In this case the editor had voted at an AFD without disclosure of their COI/PAID status (they came clean later), and was bludgeoning every discussion they were in. They also had zero interest in contributing to Wikipedia outside of their narrow company interests; in short, they were wasting everyone's time. This is precisely the type of situation where we need a person with a block button, so we can get on with things without being disrupted by those with a financial interest int he outcome of our work.--- Possibly (talk) 19:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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