User:Nathanrdotcom
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Statement by nathanrdotcom
Most importantly, I'd like to thank ILovePlankton (who has campaigned for my unblocking for quite some time) and Tawker (the unblocking admin) as well as those who have supported me and refused to believe the uninformed opinions of others. The "mob mentality" on Wikipedia has gotten way out of control. It's a logical fallacy that "just because a pile of people believes something, it's true". There's been enough fingerpointing and mudslinging tossed around that (from an uninformed standpoint), it's hard to tell where the lies end and the truth begins.
However, I'd like to say that I refuse to follow AGF when a lot of people don't act in good faith anyway (this has been proven enough in my own experience). I won't go out of my way to prove the point, though.
It's no secret that I disagree on how the block was handled; the entire matter should've been handled off-wiki with the sheer paranoia and suspicions removed, it would've kept the involvement down to only people who needed to be involved instead of trolls and other people engaging in speculation, guesswork and finger-pointing.
Further, I request semi-protection of my userpage and talk page (for the minimum period of a month) to minimize "fallout" from certain disreputable websites, known trolls and disgruntled users/admins who don't agree with my unblocking, etc. I believe this to be a fair request, considering the current situation.
I will not answer any comments or questions about my block except from those who need to know (and if you weren't involved, it's really none of your business, now is it?). I think most of us who were involved can all agree that the whole issue has gone way too far.
I'd like to wait until all the fallout dies down before I do anything even relating to Wikipedia - after all, after having been blocked for really stupid reasons for 6 months, I don't owe Wikipedia a thing. Life goes on..I'll pop in every now and then to see what's been happening and I may get back to editing in a month or two.
Comments can be left below; remember Wikipedia guidelines (which seem to be broken - even by admins - way too often) before you post - no personal attacks or bad-faith edits (I may not be the one to revert such things but someone will). Use your brain before you use your fingers. I probably won't be checking this page very often so e-mail is the best way (no I don't have e-mail enabled and that won't be happening anytime soon).
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I'm willing to semi-protect per Nathan's request. If you think it's a bad idea (or if you are an unregistered editor who feel the need to contact Nathan) please let me know. Guettarda 19:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Welcome back. I'd delete all the above since it means you don't start with a clean slate. David D. (Talk) 19:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it makes a good point; if it's a violation of WP:POINT, I'll consider ideas for a rewrite. Nathan (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have no problem with the point but it begs questions. Yet that appears to be the part of the point you are trying to make, 'please don't ask questions'. A little like a catch22 here. :) The only reason i mention it is I had forgotton about it all. But what you wrote above reminded me about it. Clean slate seems better to me, most editors here probably don't know or remember. And those that do, thats their problem but above won't stop them being unwelcoming. If the're out there, just ignore them. David D. (Talk) 19:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I encourage people to ask questions, it's the only way to learn anything (especially if they think they know what they're talking about and they really don't), but if the info is none of anyone's business (in this case, it really only concerns a few people & it happened off-wiki and should've stayed there) and it'll only encourage negativity...well..someone has to draw the line someplace. You make a good point about starting with a blank slate though but if I don't make a statement..I doubt it will be that easy. People won't make it that easy for me. Nathan (talk) 19:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think you'll get enough support from the community if you are a productive editor to counteract the police. How about you make an archive and move the statment there? That way people can see it but it does not wack you over the head when you arrive at your talk page. i think you need people to see something positive when they open yur talk page. Life is too short. Make them smile. David D. (Talk) 20:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Remember what I said above though. I'm not going to get into editing unless I know the unblock will stick. There are enough admins around here who are gunning for my head (and for no good reason - remember I'm rather notorious in some circles though I'd like to say my words & actions will eventually speak for themselces). At this moment, my status on Wikipedia (whether I'm unblocked finally or re-blocked) hangs on a very thin thread. I want to make sure the unblock will stick before I start doing anything. I prefer to be a sceptic in that department at least for now. Remember that any vindictive admin could block me at any minute and for no reason other than their own. It's happened before to other users, it could happen to me as well. But I understand what you're saying and I agree, in a way. I just don't think that's the way to go right now. Nathan (talk) 20:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think you'll get enough support from the community if you are a productive editor to counteract the police. How about you make an archive and move the statment there? That way people can see it but it does not wack you over the head when you arrive at your talk page. i think you need people to see something positive when they open yur talk page. Life is too short. Make them smile. David D. (Talk) 20:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I encourage people to ask questions, it's the only way to learn anything (especially if they think they know what they're talking about and they really don't), but if the info is none of anyone's business (in this case, it really only concerns a few people & it happened off-wiki and should've stayed there) and it'll only encourage negativity...well..someone has to draw the line someplace. You make a good point about starting with a blank slate though but if I don't make a statement..I doubt it will be that easy. People won't make it that easy for me. Nathan (talk) 19:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have no problem with the point but it begs questions. Yet that appears to be the part of the point you are trying to make, 'please don't ask questions'. A little like a catch22 here. :) The only reason i mention it is I had forgotton about it all. But what you wrote above reminded me about it. Clean slate seems better to me, most editors here probably don't know or remember. And those that do, thats their problem but above won't stop them being unwelcoming. If the're out there, just ignore them. David D. (Talk) 19:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Welcome back, and Tawker rocks. I don't think the above is a violation of WP:POINT. ~Crazytales (IP locations!) 19:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)