Talk:Teratornis

11 or 12 ft? I've read that this bird had a wingspan up to 14ft?

14-ft?

--In 1997 at Woodburn, Oregon the 12.5-inch humerus of a possible new species of Teratorn was discovered. This incomplete specimen dubbed "Teratornis Woodburnensis" has been examined by Alison Stenger and paleontologists in LA who have estimated the predator bird's wingspan at about 14-feet. The scant remains of the bird were found in the Pleistocene Ice-age level of around 12,000 years before present. --70.59.155.91 06:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thunderbird?

--It seems presumptuous to claim that this bird was the source of the Amerindian thunderbird myth. Though this bird may have been impressive, thunderbird stories from across the continent seem to be more closely related to actual weather phenomena than any type of animal. While it would be tempting to connect this bird with those stories, is there any real evidence that ties them together?

Re:

Is there any evidence to associate the Native American Thunderbird with Teratorn? That's a good question. It seems that Thunderbird is more associated with Thunder and Nature. Yet indipendant legends of physical giant birds exist in native american folk context, regardless of wheather or not these are considered "Thunderbird" or other giant birds like the Condor. Some good info can be found here: http://sped2work.tripod.com/evidence.html