Talk:Valimai

See forbes its actually 160 crore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.211.210.85 (talk) 02:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2021

112.134.123.205 (talk) 12:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

this movie my very very important movie

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 14:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Please consider on grammar

According to this report they had reported grammar mistakes on this article. Hope you'll might follow them to get a class B value to this article. --TFE^Talk..! 14:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2022

Some grammatical changes 182.65.130.64 (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC) please allow me to update some grammatical.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2022

Anonymous Nerd123 (talk) 08:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey so i wanted to edit some of your grammar mistakes in plot section.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 08:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Copyvio Detector

See this report : https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Valimai&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=1 . Hope violations want taken place later.😐 --TFE^Talk..! 10:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Manobala Vijayabalan's and Ramesh Bala's box office figures

Many prominent news outlets use Manobala Vijayabalan, a tracker on Twitter as their source. It is high time that we noticed that this guy is unreliable. Here, Deccan Herald which uses Manobala as their source says Valimai grossed 36 cr on Day 1 and 24 cr on Day 2 in Tamil Nadu. The actual collections are 28.5 cr on Day 1 and 11.5 cr on Day 2 which can be seen at Bollywood Hungama. Manobala is notorious for posting fake collections. He has done the same before for Annaatthe, which he says grossed 150 crore in Tamil Nadu when no other reliable source published that it even reached 100 crore there. I require your consensus to remove the Deccan Herald source from Valimai and also place Manobala on the list of unreliable sources. @Kailash29792 @Ab207

(PublicEnemy54321 (talk) 22:28, 26 February 2022 (UTC))

PublicEnemy54321, there seems to be an assumption that Manobala Vijayabalan is reliable because he runs a verified handle. This is incorrect because many non-RS sites also run verified accounts. Being published in reliable sources may give them some creditability but Wikipedia:Fruit of the poisonous tree should also be considered. If Manobala's figures vary greatly compared to other sources without a good reason as you say, I'd support marking it unreliable. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion at WT:ICTF#Manobala Vijayabalan on his reliability. Interested parties are requested provide their inputs there. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

At this moment, I would also like to mention the unreliability of Ramesh Bala. This one is a self-proclaimed Ajith fan; he has tweeted several times about his love for Ajith. Those tweets have been deleted now. So there isn't any proof for that. Although, it is clear that he inflated the numbers of Viswasam. When the very reliable Firstpost stated that the film made 185 crore worldwide in its lifetime, Ramesh Bala inflated it to 200 crore to suit his agenda.

Box Office India recently published an article about how numbers are inflated whenever a film starring Vijay or Ajith is released. I don't know if this is enough evidence to place Ramesh Bala on the same table as Manobala, but the numbers provided by Ramesh Bala should be taken with a pinch of salt. @Ab207

PublicEnemy54321 (talk) 11:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

PublicEnemy54321, we should probably start treating these tweet attributed figures as WP:SELFPUB sources. Are there any Tamil-language sources which publish reliable box office figures? -- Ab207 (talk) 12:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so. Box Office India is very reliable, but they rarely track Tamil films. When they do, they are accurate. Bollywood Hungama is also close to accurate but again they don't publish numbers of Tamil films very often. Among the news outlets, Firstpost and Mint give accurate figures for South Indian films, although the latter usually only quotes numbers given by Box Office India. Other sources, including even the well-known Times of India give highly inflated figures at times. @Ab207

PublicEnemy54321 (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

PublicEnemy54321, I see. What about Tamil newspapers and portals? Telugu newspapers, for example, publish articles like this which are well-researched and accurate. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

There are some like Dina Malar, Daily Thanthi, Puthiya Thalaimurai etc. None of them post box office figures on a regular basis and even when they do, they are not well-researched or accurate. @Ab207

PublicEnemy54321 (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Pinkvilla cannot be taken as a proof for Valimai box office collection. Author of pinkvilla box office articles is Jatinder Singh who along with Vijay fan Mithun Raman runs a page called cinetrak which inflates Vijay box office numbers & gives bumper discount for Ajith , Rajini movies . There are proofs (tweets )from Jatinder Singh that he indeed is a part of Cinetrak . Pinkvilla, cinetrak numbers are exactly the same for Valimai Henceforth , pinkvilla's Box office numbers should never be taken into account as they are highly one sided .

Harihara1909196523 (talk) 15:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)