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I variate my signature every so often, mostly in color. These are the signatures that I have used and the rough dates for the time I started and stopped using them. Yell at me if my current one is inaccessible.

Pages worth patrolling

In case you didn't know this, pages on protests and military conflicts that get major mainstream media attention tend to get quite a bit of 1-2 sentence copyright violations, often slightly paraphrased, especially in 'timeline' and 'reactions' sections, and generally nobody makes the effort to label these as copyvios or ask for help from copyright clerks. Either other editors don't notice, despite the added text sounding "newsy" and written independently of the surrounding context, or they notice but don't have the time (my case) or knowledge for copyvio labelling; in many cases they edit the copyvio'd text so it becomes more natural. Even after media attention lowers, these are still high risk cases. It might be worth it to think of some sort of bot help for these. The copyviolating editors (usually, but not always, IP editors) usually give the source, without realising that they're violating copyright, so a bot that checks the new content in these sections against the sources might strike a fair balance between extra cpu load and handling copyvios quickly.

A few key strings for suspicious text for someone who might want to write a bot are "the ([adjective]|) city", "the ([adjective]|) nation", "the ([adjective]|) country", "the ([adjective]|) kingdom" - mainstream media newsy style seems to forbid repeating a country/city name in the same or successive sentences. Obviously, these strings would only be a Bayesian clue. Automated analysis would probably find several key style aspects of BBC/NYT/Guardian/CNN/AJE/Reuters that don't quite sound right in an encyclopedia. Human verification by a native English speaker would almost certainly be needed, at least at the beginning. Boud (talk) 20:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Large edits get screened through the TurnItIn API by User:EranBot and sent to the CopyPatrol interface, where there are more copyright editors, so that may cover the automated analyses. I'm afraid that what you describe is common across all types of articles, but especially popular BLPs :/.It's annoying to deal with, since a single sentence or two is not a problem. However, it's time consuming to correct if it is extensive. Thanks for bringing this up, Boud. I'll keep it in mind. :) Sennecaster (Chat) 23:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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For all you do at CCI. Hog Farm Talk 05:44, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

I'm aware of the CCI in relation to User:Martinevans123, but I'm confused by this. How does taking out sources and leaving the text relate to rectifying a copyvio? I assume from the edit summary that "CV" = copyvio but I may have misunderstood that. DeCausa (talk) 20:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did the reverse; I removed the text and left the sources. The diff shows the reference syntax moving upwards; it may be more clear in visual differences if you have that enabled. Diff reading gives me headaches too, no worries on the misunderstanding. CV does stand for copyvio, I started using it once I encountered cases where I would hit max character limit on my removals due to massive amounts of pasting. Sennecaster (Chat) 20:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My bad. I was thrown off by the shading on the right hand side of the diff. Thanks. DeCausa (talk) 20:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, reading diffs is an absolute nightmare for everyone. Sennecaster (Chat) 20:17, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sennecaster. I see that you are active in this area, in which I am inexperienced. Could you look at this article page, in particular the reference section. There are many lengthy quotations from the cited sources, almost to the point that the reader ends up incorporating them alongside the article text as they read the article. Is this permitted? It seems like appropriation of the cited publications, but I don't know how WP treats such things? Thanks very much. SPECIFICO talk 19:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SPECIFICO I mostly see refquotes being used if the source is heavily paywalled or offline. I would follow the principles of normal quote usage with respect to NFC. WP:QUOTEFARM is probably the best guidance on this. However, these grounds tend to be much more shaky than a straight up copyright violation or close paraphrase, as anything to do with NFC and quotes is already a hot mess. CCI tends to remove or trim down such overquotes, but if you're in content dispute/discussion with someone I would seek outside review, like at WP:CP (list without blanking). Sennecaster (Chat) 20:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great thanks for the quick reply. SPECIFICO talk 20:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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