User talk:Thedefender35

Don't give up

Please don't give up just yet. Give me some time and I'll make a proposal to help you. You can choose to accept or not. I think you deserve that opportunity and I'm willing to help you. --ARose Wolf 17:22, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me. I really like using Wikipedia and I would hate to get blocked. Td ^she ^/her 17:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to to try since you are willing. Let me put something together and I'll let you know. Then you can either accept or deny. Stay away from the Teahouse or Help Desk though, okay? --ARose Wolf 17:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

so far I've made a request for a tban from the help desk and teahouse on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents Td ^she ^/her 17:29, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping to avoid that as a blemish but we can work within the ban. --ARose Wolf 18:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

what we did was ban me answering question but allows me to ask questions Td ^she ^/her 18:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Voluntary Td ^she ^/her 18:23, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. With your permission I would like to claim you as a mentee. If you have any questions about what it means you can check out WP: Growth Team features. You can always remove me or aske to be removed and I will comply. After I have claimed you then you can go to your Preferences and activate your Homepage under the Newcomer editor features. --ARose Wolf 18:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We'll start with looking over that page and getting familiar with each function. --ARose Wolf 18:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am ok with being your mentee thank you for giving me this chance.Td ^she ^/her 18:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. I'd rather give you the chance. I believe you will be such a positive for the encyclopedia and an amazing editor. We'll just get you started and growing in the right direction. --ARose Wolf 18:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've claimed you as a mentee so now when you go to the homepage you should see me as your mentor. You can ask me questions directly from your homepage. --ARose Wolf 18:53, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

got it, Thanks for the help.Td ^she ^/her 18:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a box labeled "Suggested edits" on your homepage. This will be the primary way you will make small but meaningful edits for a while. There are three options. Easy - Recommended for when you are first learning to edit. These are primarily copy edits such as fixing grammar, spelling and tone within an article. Medium - After you have completed some easy edits. These will be edits such as finding and adding sources for existing articles or bringing the information in an article up-to-date. Hard - When you have learned about Wikipedia best practices. Expanding short articles and creating articles. --ARose Wolf 19:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning (early morning for me), please make sure that your setting is for easy edits. We'll move on to medium and hard edits later on. You will be given suggested articles to review for these specific issues. Pick the first one and look over the article to see if there are any grammatical, spelling or tone issues. If there are obvious edits needing to be made then make them yourself and make sure to leave an edit summary to notify everyone you have made copyedits. If you need help or have any questions about an edit please let me know and I'll assist you. You may go several suggestions without finding any issues. It's okay, keep looking. --ARose Wolf 14:58, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are most definitely not useless. You are beautiful. You are a Song. You are a Rainbow of colors and you are going to get through this. You can learn and you will be successful. Keep trying! --ARose Wolf 18:43, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @ARoseWolf, just a note that I've suggested @Thedefender35 come to you for some assistance as I think they mean well but are out of their depth at ANI. Star Mississippi 20:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Star Mississippi. @Thedefender35, AN/I is an administrative noticeboard. While it is true that any editor can leave a comment and in most cases it is even encouraged that experienced editors and the community give their opinion, it is just as important that comments remain policy based there as it is on the Teahouse and the Help Desk. I am trying to work with you and we will get into policy and guidelines but I need you to prove to me that this won't be a waste of time and efforts. You can be the most well intentioned editor and be 100% against policy. You can be acting in the best of faith and still be disruptive. Please consider this and stay away from those discussions for now. Focus on making small edits. Show me you can do this and we'll move to studying some policies and guidelines. I need your commitment to this effort. --ARose Wolf 13:43, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ARoseWolf I was told by User:Star Mississippi that statements like "Possible copyvio..." with no reason for setting up an afd were Wikipedia:Good faith despite several other editors calling User:The Banner out for not attempting to give any viable reason. I also find it weird that User:Star Mississippi was also involved in those votes that went 1-0 and they have also refused to give a reason for why they didn't notice this despite being directly involved. I seriously don't understand what I'm missing in this situation as they deleted on of the top 5 football teams and got a user banned because they were in distress. Td ^she ^/her 16:48, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thedefender35 I never said one way or the other whether the nominations were in good faith, I think you have me mixed up with another editor. I was not involved with the votes beyond my closing of the AfDs, which is at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2022_October_19#1994–95_season_articles, the proper venue to review closures about which there is concern. If you believe I should be blocked, make a case for it here and I'm sure an uninvolved editor would bring it to AN. I don't think you'll find support for it, just as you didn't in the thread. I will note that I did not got a user banned. The user in question decided to call our actions racist and when advised to stop, they were blocked. I did not block them, although I did suggest TP be removed and suggested a partial block from DRV. I would not have blocked myself as you're correct, I am involved. As I said, you're editing in good faith but I don't think you understand the way this project works, which is why you're in over your head. Star Mississippi 17:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

sorry I got you mixed with User:Sergecross73 who said "You want to block an AFD participant for a good faith AFD !vote with no past pattern of disruptive AFD participation? That's insane. This is an awful approach." Td ^she ^/her 17:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the "block" he is talking about was a 24hr block from afds so that banner could look over what he did wrong. Td ^she ^/her 17:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

that was supported by several editors. "Agreed with Jayron and Ravenswing, repeated untenable nominations are bad enough, but AfDing so many that are obviously notable is beyond disruptive." as per User:JoelleJay. "Actually, you have quite a mediocre record at AfD. AfD tools report that in the last thousand nominations you've filed, the eventual result matches yours just 57% of the time, which is not much better than random chance.

But we are not talking about AfDs you filed five years ago -- although given your recent behavior, a closer examination of your record is appropriate. We're talking the AfDs you filed against articles on highly notable subjects that HugoAcosta created, where you demonstrably did not perform WP:BEFORE, where you levied unsupported and likely unfounded accusations of copyright violations at him. Do you have an explanation for those?" as per User:Ravenswing. "Another vote for temporarily banning User:The Banner from AFDs and further punishment if he continues, the AFDs he's just put up are are at best ridiculous, and at worst incendiary." as per User:Ortizesp Td ^she ^/her 17:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i would fully understand concern if I was the only user implying he broke protocol but I am most definitely not. If this is out of line for me to state my support for something I didn't even come up with then what that constitute for the user who made the suggestion? Td ^she ^/her 17:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Star Mississippi if you need more quotes for the proposed out of line afds let me know. Td ^she ^/her 17:19, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]