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Redirect

Does anyone object to redirecting this to a new page, University of Toronto Students' Union? Considering that's the official name of this organization, the wiki page should reflect that.

Past Presidents

Is there anyone who can get a list on this for the article? --Spinboy 00:27, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I can probably get you a list from someone that I know at SAC. There was a book written for the 101st anniversary in 2001, so a comprehensive history is there, and I believe the author and researcher are still around. Send me an email. Thanks--Alexdelarge 15:27, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the list published in the SAC 101 book is not perfect (especially for the early periods). I have a list of past presidents of SAC from 1915-1950 culled from my own research with proper first initials. If someone manages to type in the list from the SAC 101 book I would be glad to edit it -- send an e-mail to ut.history@utoronto.ca when the edit is needed. The 101st anniversary book is not a "comprehensive history" but it is an excellent start.

Expansion

Could someone more knowledgeable about the SAC's organizational structure give a bit more detail on the Board of Directors? (The proviso being that each individual faculty's own separate student union should not have its own distinct article, per Wikipedia rules about notability; anything important enough to be noted should be done specifically within this article.) Bearcat 02:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested a citation for this claim: "Professional students reputedly had less time to debate university issues because of their more rigid timetables." Also, if anyone can add more information regarding the current role and importance of the SAC, that would be great. --Marysunshine 19:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The citation about professional students is a paraphrase from one of two sources. Either an article in The Varsity from around 1913, or a report on the Students' Parliament in the University of Toronto Monthly around the same time. I will have to check out which one is correct and report back. The source of the citation may still be questionable because it was a surmise by Arts students as to why professional students were not active participants in the Parliamemt. Lostphd 20:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Further to this -- sorry. The actual references are from 1908 and 1909, see The Varsity for December 18, 1908 and November 26, 1909. Both articles mention the low attendance at meetings and specifically point out that medical students were the main culprits. Neither mentions timetables, that was a mistaken interpolation on my part. I have corrected the text accordingly Lostphd 18:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History

The organization in 1901 was called the University of Toronto Union (and sometimes the University of Toronto Undergraduate Union). You can check this in the Varsity between 1901 and 1905, see for example the Varsity masthead of November 19, 1902 or the editorial of January 19, 1905. The recent change of name cannot be considered a "renaming" because the original name was not "Students' Union". I think the name change was silly, but my role on this page is as a historian so I have refrained from saying so except in discussion. Lostphd 05:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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