User talk:Bingobro/Indian Airports
Thoughts on this
[edit]I've had this sitting around for a while now, perhaps I could get a few comments on this. Its been a perennial issue with the naming of Indian airports. Also if this ever goes to the wp space (as an essay perhaps something like WP:Simple Flying), I call shotgun on the WP:INDAIR redirect/shortcut (a nod to IC :p). Pinging for comment (feel free to express your opinions) @LeoFrank:, @Sunnya343:, @Arnav Bhate:, @FlyJet777:. Bingobro (Chat) 11:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think the simplest approach is to just follow WP:COMMONNAME as you indicated in #1. Sunnya343 (talk) 19:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Common name for airports at least isn't easy to consider. News articles themselves use different names in different articles within their own entity. Official name (backed by IATA) should be probably considered (not like what you did with LKO). — LeoFrank Talk 17:08, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- The obsession here with Indian airports is the emotion attached with that place. People think as soon as an airport is declared international, the word international gets augmented in its name. By this logic, Heathrow Airport, [[Frankfurt Airport[[, etc are domestic? — LeoFrank Talk 17:10, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- On second thought, LeoFrank, you have a point. Though I disagree with relying on the IATA for the airport's name. For instance Jindal Vijayanagar Airport is simply called Jindal [Airport] in the IATA database.
For airports I wonder if we should just use the official name. I saw that the title of the Ahmedabad airport article was changed from Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport to Ahmedabad Airport. I mean, sure, Ahmedabad Airport is probably the common name around the world, just as Omaha Airport and Abuja Airport are likely the ones for those airports. Yet the titles of the latter articles are Eppley Airfield and Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, respectively. Perhaps we should follow a similar approach with Indian airports for consistency. For example, for the Ahmedabad airport we would refer to what its owner/operator, the Adani Group, calls it.
It would make things easier when it comes to adding the word "international" to an airport's name. For example on 15 December 2023 the Indian government approved a proposal to designate Surat Airport (STV) as an international airport, though this appears to be a change in status (rather than name) that enabled the airport to handle international flights (which started two days later). A similar phenomenon can be seen at the old Bangalore airport, which became a customs airport on 1 January 1995 and began receiving international flights the next day. The Airports Authority of India, which owns STV, still calls it Surat Airport. Therefore, we use that title. Honestly I don't think journalists pay much attention to whether they write "Surat Airport" or "Surat International Airport" in their news stories.
I will ping Jan olieslagers for their opinion as I noticed this comment they made at WT:AIRPORTS:
And, though some say we should use the "name most commonly used", for aerodromes I prefer to stick to what official documents say.
Sunnya343 (talk) 17:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)- Huh, thank you for making our opinion relevant - we are not so sure of our own authority :) But yes, the name as published in official documents, such as the AIP should be preferred, in our humble opinion, all the rest being subjective, and, worse, subject to commercialism. Consider, for one example, Rochester Airport, they style themselves that, though they are obviously not an airport according to our own definition. What to do about the naming of aerodromes in India we have not the faintest idea or suggestion, living far away and being totally unconcerned, but objectively quantifyable data have our preference. Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- On second thought, LeoFrank, you have a point. Though I disagree with relying on the IATA for the airport's name. For instance Jindal Vijayanagar Airport is simply called Jindal [Airport] in the IATA database.