User talk:Encylo-P-D
Slovenia
I have reopened the talk page on the subject where you can see what the discussion was all about. The short description was apparently indeed tampered with as the 84.255.219.234 claimed, though I seriously cannot bring myself to checking how far back that goes. In addition, most (if not all) Central European countries simply adhere to the short description "Country in Europe" - same goes for the short description on Google (just type in Slovenia in search engine for that matter). Cheers! Øksfjord (talk) 19:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The discussion was never resolved. Slovenia can be considered Central, Southeastern and Balkan. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- You seem to be on a spree of adding either Eastern or Southeastern term to the Central European countries, I see. Interesting. Did you create your profile just for that purpose? Øksfjord (talk) 20:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Did you create your profile specifically for inaccurate information about Slovenia? I add these terms with citations. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The matter is already sufficiently cited. Has been for years now, predating my profile. Slovenia is - per Wikipedia - considered Central Europe, as are Poland, Slovakia, Czechia, and Hungary - all of which you edited as well - with all the edits already reverted as far as I can see. Yes, there are multiple definitions of Central Europe, that's why those countries are considered a part of it by concensus - not only on the English Wiki, but also everywhere else (the sole exception being, as far as I know, the German that simply places it in "Europe"). But you will not find Slovenia categorised as a country in Southeastern Europe anywhere (not even in the combination of "Central and Southeastern" you used). Øksfjord (talk) 20:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's literally included in Southeast Europe. Secondly, Central and Southeastern is not a category, it's acknowledging it can be considered Central or Southeastern or both. Third, I have included citations showing it can be considered Southeastern. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I remember the discussion we had in November 2019 well - Jingiby was quite like yourself in that regard, though that led to a significant dispute back then and he eventually gave up, it seemed (and his talk page was quite bustling with criticism referring to his partiality on a wide variety of topics). Furthermore, if your point of view is to be considered, Italy can also be regarded a country partially situated in Southeastern Europe and Spain a country in Africa. Øksfjord (talk) 20:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's not my point of view, it's the point of view of reputable sources. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I remember the discussion we had in November 2019 well - Jingiby was quite like yourself in that regard, though that led to a significant dispute back then and he eventually gave up, it seemed (and his talk page was quite bustling with criticism referring to his partiality on a wide variety of topics). Furthermore, if your point of view is to be considered, Italy can also be regarded a country partially situated in Southeastern Europe and Spain a country in Africa. Øksfjord (talk) 20:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can also find many sources which place it in Eastern Europe. I can add those and change the description to Central and Eastern Europe. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Your edits seem to be highly tendentious - all those sources have been repudiated in the past. You seem to be sequentially editing the descriptions of all the former communist Central European countries to promote your view. Øksfjord (talk) 20:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- No promotion here, simply accurate information with reputable sources, showing that many of these countries are considered Central and Eastern or Central and Southeastern. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quite unsavoury. If you look at the linked page about Southeastern Europe, you will find that Slovenia is only mentioned in the description as being one of the countries sometimes placed in SEE, same as Hungary, Moldova, and Cyprus. No other list there mentions Slovenia being included in SEE (neither by Ständige Ausschuss or the CIA WF), as opposed to the page describing Central Europe. Additionally, I see you reverted an edit a third party made on the Slovenian article with the justification of reverting vandalism? Really ... Øksfjord (talk) 21:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The page describing Central Europe also sometimes places Slovenia in Eastern and Southeastern Europe. Plus, the second paragraph of the articles starts with "the region is variously defined, it often includes" which means it's a nebulous region that doesn't have a universal strict definition.
- The revert was to fight vandalism as there was no explanation. Encylo-P-D (talk) 21:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stop with your disturbing edits or you will be blocked. Dasomm (talk) 21:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, finally someone else who finds them exasperating. Øksfjord (talk) 21:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quite unsavoury. You find accurate information with citations “exasperating”? I see. Encylo-P-D (talk) 21:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Do not threaten me. Encylo-P-D (talk) 21:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- They are not “disturbing edits”. Accurate information has been added with citations. Encylo-P-D (talk) 21:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, finally someone else who finds them exasperating. Øksfjord (talk) 21:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stop with your disturbing edits or you will be blocked. Dasomm (talk) 21:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quite unsavoury. If you look at the linked page about Southeastern Europe, you will find that Slovenia is only mentioned in the description as being one of the countries sometimes placed in SEE, same as Hungary, Moldova, and Cyprus. No other list there mentions Slovenia being included in SEE (neither by Ständige Ausschuss or the CIA WF), as opposed to the page describing Central Europe. Additionally, I see you reverted an edit a third party made on the Slovenian article with the justification of reverting vandalism? Really ... Øksfjord (talk) 21:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- No promotion here, simply accurate information with reputable sources, showing that many of these countries are considered Central and Eastern or Central and Southeastern. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Your edits seem to be highly tendentious - all those sources have been repudiated in the past. You seem to be sequentially editing the descriptions of all the former communist Central European countries to promote your view. Øksfjord (talk) 20:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's literally included in Southeast Europe. Secondly, Central and Southeastern is not a category, it's acknowledging it can be considered Central or Southeastern or both. Third, I have included citations showing it can be considered Southeastern. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The matter is already sufficiently cited. Has been for years now, predating my profile. Slovenia is - per Wikipedia - considered Central Europe, as are Poland, Slovakia, Czechia, and Hungary - all of which you edited as well - with all the edits already reverted as far as I can see. Yes, there are multiple definitions of Central Europe, that's why those countries are considered a part of it by concensus - not only on the English Wiki, but also everywhere else (the sole exception being, as far as I know, the German that simply places it in "Europe"). But you will not find Slovenia categorised as a country in Southeastern Europe anywhere (not even in the combination of "Central and Southeastern" you used). Øksfjord (talk) 20:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Did you create your profile specifically for inaccurate information about Slovenia? I add these terms with citations. Encylo-P-D (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- You seem to be on a spree of adding either Eastern or Southeastern term to the Central European countries, I see. Interesting. Did you create your profile just for that purpose? Øksfjord (talk) 20:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)