Talk:Collateral (film)

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Gunshots

Would it be "adding" to the article a mention that the film (well, when I watched it anyway) seems to make the gunshots realistically loud compared to the way most films "mute" gunfire? In a few scenes, it really felt like there was someone a few metres away firing a pistol. Any comment? --Brendan Hide 20:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

well, in addition to not using any gun silencers, i did notice that the gunshots were too live .. maybe the sound FX guy was really good or maybe they were real live shots.. i suppose they don't use real live gun shots in making movies, do they? --PASSIVE (Talk|E-Mail) 19:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If you can prove it, then by all means. Wanderer 04:48, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC) The link to the movie "heat" previously linked to an article on heat in the scientific sense rather than the film, I have changed it.

They used blanks on set. So the gunfire you heard was the gun going off, minus the bullet.

RE: Cameo by "Transporter" Frank Martin (Jason Statham)

Louis Leterrier Interviewed by IGN by Chris Carle [1]

Carle asks Leterrier about the future of the Transporter franchise. Leterrier explains that if the Transporter franchise fails that Frank Martin will just cameo in movies. Particularly Leterrier mentioned Michael Mann's movies. --SETTTT (Talk|E-Mail)

Final Shootout

In this article, it offers what appears to be a very assured explanation of the final shootout at the end of the movie. It claims that Vincent lost the battle because of his failure to change his killing pattern, blindly following the same method he uses to kill all his targets. I think that this theory is incorrect. Don't you think a hitman as experienced and capable as Vincent would know enough to change his method when it is clear it wouldn't work? While Vincent prefers to shoot his victims with the two-in-the-chest, one-in-the-head method, I'm sure that this tactic is used when he deems it appropriate, and I'm sure a man like Vincent, as intelligent as he is, would not stupidly follow this pattern when it obviously wouldn't work. When a metal door is blocking a clear shot of his target, I'm sure Vincent would know better than to shoot at the door itself, and take advantage of the situation and try to shoot through the windows.

Furthermore, there seems to be no evidence that suggests Vincent even followed this pattern. Although I may be wrong, as I have not seen the film in a while, from what I remember, both Vincent and Max blindly fired their guns without any real method or tactic. I don't recall any real evidence that Vincent used his usual MO, and there are no lingering camera shots or close-ups of the bullet-riddled door to prove this. I think that the victor of the battle, Max, achieved this by simple luck, and not by a particular method used by either of the men. I think to state in the article that Vincent lost the battle because of his failure to adapt is more of an educated guess than proven fact.

The way the article is currently written, it seems as if the argument presented regarding the final shootout is proven fact. However, as Mann has never explicitly addressed the issue, I think it's going a little far to present it as definitively as it is written. My suggestion would be to either remove this section of the article, or re-write it to present it as one opinion out of many.

RE: Final Shootout

I read this comment and watched the end shootout again, and noticed the following shot:

When the camera is viewing from Maxes side of the door, you can clearly see three bullet holes in the door, with two close together at chest height, and one at about head height. It's only about 2-3 seconds long, but it is clearly visible Duffking 13:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Major Edit - 12/06=

I've done a major edit of the synopsis, expanding the plotlines and adding a great deal of the story that was previously left out. Added quotes from the movie. Re-wrote most of the synopsis, as the previous synopsis was written quite poorly (with regard to grammar and sentence structure). The new synopsis is far from perfect, but should be much better than the previous. Please feel free to edit any mistakes I may have made or failed to catch.

User:Androoos 22:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Androoos[reply]

criticism

i believe theres too much criticism in the begining of this article, its not balanced but overly negative. your thoughts?

Removed the last part.

As it was written the last part of the synopsis felt way too biased, so I think the article is better off without it.