Talk:School violence

Article focus

I know this woamiation the content I posted is PD, it's an executive summary, and may serve as a point of departure for the next draft. Here is the DOJ page for the full report: Indicators of School Crime and Safety, 2004 --68.227.221.254 07:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Maybe this should be over at Wikisource or something? If it's just excerpts from a report, I don't really know if it meets Wikipedia's article requirements. But maybe I'm wrong. -- Dpark 17:06, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think that the article should focus more on school violence itself rather than the statistics. I also think the article is too U.S. specific (because of the statistics).--84.26.109.69 15:59, 20 January 2006.

I agree completely. Also see the policy on Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Added {{wikify}} in the mean time; I think this is a good candidate for Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive. GChriss 06:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nonfatal Student Victimization—Student Reports. Where?

Does anybody know any sources to this, or if it refers to American or international reports? No one really wants any of this to happen and someone had to stand up for it. Parents need to talk to their kids and ask them what is going on in their life and ask them why they are doing that to kinds that have not done anything to them. The cause of most tof this school violence is coming from home and stuff that is happening there.

Those statements are vague, and are in the current revision of the article. We could disagree and say that people do want it to happen, else it would not happen in the first place. Obviously, these incidents of violence are occuring, and saying that nobody wants it to happen is not going to make it go away. "The cause of most of this school violence is coming from home and stuff that is happening there", no. Let's try something along the lines of reporting about studies of children that talk with their parents versus those who do not, or some other studies that identifies factors more specifically than "stuff". Remember, this is an encyclopedia and not a blog.Eferybody don't have to be around that person or like them they will do anything in the dark. --kanzure 19:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant Copyright violation

This whole article appears to have been copied directly from the DOJ link posted in the first comment on this page, quoting statistics is one thing but it appears to have been copied verbatim. This is definitely a topic worthy of an article, but if nothing is done to improve it it'll have to be deleted. --D Elkington 11:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Threat assessment for safer schools

I work in the public school system in Florida as a school psychologist. I have published and present nationally on threat assessment and the mitigation of school violence. I maintain a site on the web at www.psych-insight.com as professional resource addressing the application of threat assessment for mental health professionals working in middle and high schools. I hope that you find it a useful resource. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.118.67.138 (talk) 22:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Beginnings of a rewrite

This article was previously copied verbatim from here, and while that appears to be a public domain US government source, and thus not a copyvio, it's still not what an article ought to consist of. I've dramatically slashed that section, and expansion should be based on a range of sources, particularly ones dealing with more than one year at a time.

I've also merged some content from another article that relates to a Polish incident, this is under the "Poland" section.

Some ideas for expansion:

cover more countries
add a section on causes of school violence

--bainer (talk) 08:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't recommend to add a section on causes of school violence. Germans did that and it looks very miserable, something like that: kids in school tend to violence because they watch too many violent movies on TV and play too many violent computer games, done by some psychologist amateur. At least, that Polish case previously titled Anna Halman, you helped to delete, doesn't fit in any category proposed in German version of this article. Just like Nicole Brown Simpson wouldn't fit in general category of domestic violence. Now, after you dumped this high potential Anna Halman case into the same bag with all those small time offenders, you look for a fool to label it as an every day occurance under some flag or another? Not a very smart move, I gather. You've only made a huge favor to Polish corrupted politicians, who make everything possible to cover up this story and to keep it under hat. greg park avenue 21:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's the important decision of Jimbo Wales on Talk:2006 Gdansk school suicide incident#moving and merging. —Zacheus ^{Talk • Contributions • Edit counter} 06:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Safety- In School vs. Out of School

I'm looking for information on relative safety. It seems to me that kids are most often victims of crime or violence outside of school rather than in school. I'm not having much luck reading the national data, though.