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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by EvanYares (talk | contribs) at 08:34, 7 October 2007 (→Requested move). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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cleanup-spam

I tagged as cleanup-spam due to the list of external links (particularly under Viewers and converters). Few of these links were rmed, but the cleanup tag was. Is there a reason why ALL of these programs are notable enough for inclusion in this article? Most other file format articles don't list a dozen apps which can open said file format. --Karnesky 17:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does "Few of these links were rmed" mean? Mispellt? As I've said in a comment on the viewers section (it should have been in here instead) there are lots of problems with reading and editing DWG files and different software supports different parts of the huge DWG spec. Of course we need to make the page conform but I don't see the problem with these links. I've checked all of them, added more info on them and they're all genuine. --DuLithgow 11:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
'Few of these links were removed." I just think the apparent criteria for inclusion in the list (that it can partially read DWG is overly broad. It means that there are a lot of external links to non-notable software (and also suggests there are a lot of omissions to the list (those products whose authors didn't add them to the list). A lot of file formats are difficult to read and edit. We still don't list all programs that try to take a stab at it. --Karnesky 18:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reads As Advertisement

No it doesn't. This is objective enough, because it talks about the OpenDWG format as well.

DWG format documentation

I know Autodesk isn't good at releasing documentation on this, but has there been any efforts on documenting this from a third party, at least as for the vector basics, and publicizing what was found online based on reverse engineering the format? -- Northgrove 09:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait, OpenDWG claims compatibility at least up to 2004 at the moment of checking their site. That sounds interesting; I was unsure of its compatibility with late versions. -- Northgrove 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rewording required

The following doesn't seem to make sense: "Several companies exist that [who?] reverse-engineer the DWG file format, in an attempt to provide DWG read and write capabilities from [for?] other design programs"


The following needs to be amended:

  • “Developed by AutoDesk over 25 years ago”

Is this going to be updated every couple of years? Although from the pure logic aspect “over 25 years ago” shall be true to eternity, I suggest to replace “over 25 years ago”, by a date, even an approximate one, shall make more sense.

  • “DWG usually changes about every few years” -

Is that exactly about every few years, or approximately about every few years? There must be a better way to state this. -

Removal of section about the opendwg lawsuit

Someone has removed without justification the section about the controversy between Autodesk and Open Design Alliance for having freely distributed a library supporting the DWG format. Reverted. ALoopingIcon 21:54, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has removed this section again claiming it was error ridden. I think being DWG a widely used format, any open information about DWG and available libraries to parse it should be included. Therefore I think that the OpenDWG lawsuit is quite pertinent to this article, all the fact contains the needed factual sources (even scans of the legal papers). If someone thinks that the information here presented is not correct and or misleading, he/she probably should comment here. ALoopingIcon 21:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to be as correct as possible in the description of the lawsuit. It was about using or simulating Autodesk's TrustedDWG technology. Probably the last statement about the counter lawsuit could be removed, going too much into details that typical of any lawsuit. The fact that Autodesk sued someone about reverse engineering the DWG format is a notable fact (and therefore should be here), but probably not all the gory details. ALoopingIcon 22:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The DWG page was moved to AutoCAD DWG last February, based on User:DragonHawk's request, with this reason: "Become consistent with AutoCAD DXF; general Wikipedia guideline of avoiding abbrev's in article titles"

Nice idea, but unfortunate.

  • It is not "AutoCAD" DWG. DWG didn't even originate with AutoCAD. It is the native file format for a number of CAD programs (other than AutoCAD), and it is supported by several hundred other applications. Autodesk claims no intellectual property rights to the DWG file format. (Some misguided Autodesk employee wrote, in an earlier revision of the DWG page: "Autodesk owns, develops, and iterates the DWG file format." This was "Fact" flagged in June. The writer might want to check with Autodesk's law firm , which has been very careful to claim ownership of the technology (software) used in AutoCAD to access DWG files, but not the DWG file format itself. (Consider that Adobe never claims to "own" PDF. They have a copyright on *their* PDF file format specification document, they have a copyright on the program code they use to read and write PDF format files, and they may have some patents on algorithms they use in their code to generate certain data that they write to PDF files... but none of this implies that they have any ownership over the PDF file format itself. Heck, even Microsoft isn't so stupid as to claim that they "own" any of the file formats supported by their software.)
  • DWG is supported by applications as diverse as Visio and Corel Draw.

The AutoCAD DWG page should be moved back to DWG, and the AutoCAD DXF page should be moved to DXF. EvanYares 08:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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