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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Mediaphyter (talk | contribs) at 21:48, 11 November 2007. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Should something be done about the links to the Myamar government site because it's down...oh yeah, they cut off internet access to everyone.

There are presumably blogs that have reproduced the info, if you want to look them up. Sdedeo (tips) 19:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Question for Sdedeo: Why do you continue to remove information and external links that are a) not marketing materials b) have third-party verification or c) provide the same background as companies similar to Fortinet in the security industry (i.e. Cisco, etc.). Would appreciate some guidance, if you're open to such. Thank you. Mediaphyter 00:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)mediaphyter[reply]

The point of wikipedia is not to catalog every business venture that Fortinet has gone into. It is not a place to reproduce marketing materials (this is why I removed the massive list of press releases at the end of the article.) Finally, everything in wikipedia needs to be written in a neutral tone, and much of the language that I have removed is highly promotional in nature.
An important question to ask in a wikipedia article is "is it notable?" That means finding outside, significant, neutral, third-party coverage of some aspect of the company. Simply because Fortinet does a press release that is reprinted or summarized in a trade journal does not mean we should cover it. Ideally, we would source information in this article to major journals and newspapers.
I am happy to provide guidance. My suggestion is that you (and the anonymous IP who also shows up to delete material) work on other areas of the wiki for a while; whatever your connection to Fortinet, you will learn a great deal by working on something other than this single article. Sdedeo (tips) 15:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. I cannot speak for the anonymous editor, but I've personally added information rather than deleted information, nor have I ever tried to omit any of Fortinet's more perceivably "controversial" information. Rather, try to add third-party verified information to round out the story (as I have done with other wiki pages, under an old username -- the password for which I've lost and no longer use the email addres son file). So, if I'm to understand correctly: third-party articles -- ok. Third-party articles, however, summarizing a press release, or a press release itself summarizing third-party verification of a company's achievement -- not OK. Correct? I also understand the deletion of the product "catalog" as it was previously called in some notes, however there is information that was omitted (and not marketing focused) that would be educational and informative to experts on network security. And those are the people that would likely be researching Fortinet and its competitors. So in order for Wikipedia to truly provide third-party, non-marketing information that truly helps its readership, that type of educational material should be allowed, correct? Otherwise there'd be very little reason for a senior technologist to turn to Wikipedia for background. Just trying to determine the right divide. Thanks.

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