Talk:Lisburn

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Origin of name

The town was known as Lisnagarvey until it was burned to the ground in 1641. In the years afterwards it became known as "Lisburn", as a reference to the fire. I have this on good authority from a prominent local historian. It's nothing to do with the Ulster-Scots word "burn" or "stream". See "Voices from the Street: Bridge Street and the Quay of Lisburn", published by Lisburn City Council in 2006. --Tireoghain2 15:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

City Status

While I understand that Lisburn has official city status from the Queen, does anyone agree that it would be reasonable for us to add that most people regard it as a town, or an extension of Belfast? (The same goes to Newry and Armagh) Jonto 21:28, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Lisburn is part of the BUMA (Belfast Urban Metropolitan Area) or Greater Belfast, it technically is part of Belfast in a sense. But it dos have city status. Jvlm.123 17:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely a city, www.lisburncity.gov.uk Djegan 19:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that most people do regard it as a town actually.

I've reverted the changes to the article that removed any mention of city status. It is a city, but I've added a line to say that most regard it as a town due to its size. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 08:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as someone living in Belfast. Most regard it as a suburb of belfast and find it's city status pretty laughable.Goblinman (talk) 16:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the article to make it more relavent to Lisburn City, personally when someone says Lisburn I think 1st The town, 2nd The council and 3rd The city. I grew up in what is now called Lisburn City, which many still refer to as Lisburn borough. When I say Lisburn I would always mean the town, not the administritive area! Maybe I am too close to the problem, and the rest of the world sees the council area as the more importnat of the two entities. I posted a bit on diambiguation at the bottom of this page, but no-one responded to it. Fasach Nua 19:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On an aside the Strabane article is about Strabane town, not Strabane district council area and Craigavon is about Craigavon town, not Craigavon council area, maybe we should look at some uniformity Fasach Nua 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Teen Talk!

Is this relevant:

Lisburn is home to a large youth population. The constant expansions to the "Bow Street Mall" make the mall a hotspot for youth, as well as the multiscreen "Omliplex" and "Leisureplex". Popular youth "hangout" spots include Duncan's Dam, and Castle Gardens

Or even accurate?

Gerry Lynch 17:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't suppose that matters. Considering that most places on the island of Ireland are made up of around 25% of people being under 16 years. Sure in Dublin, 50% of the population is said to be under 25. 08:22, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Police - it's not HQ for Belfast Region

No evidence that Lisburn police station is the HQ for Belfast Region. The PSNI website mentions the Lisburn DCU (District Command Unit), but Belfast is split in East, West, South and North Belfast DCUs ... each with non-Lisburn base stations.

Lisburn police state = hq for Lisburn DCU = no surprise, so not worth mentioning. Reference to police station removed. AMe 23:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace

Can't remember the details from primary school, but wasn't Wallace Park named after someone who had a big influence over the town? Maybe someone can add in the details. AMe 23:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Richard Wallace

Disambiguation

I find this article confusing, there is:

Lisburn Town - which is the market town

and

Lisburn city - which is the council area, which encompasses the town plus many non-trivial villages, such as Moira, Dunmurry and Hillsborough

and from reading the artile, I couldn't tell which of the two this article is meant to refer to, does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Fasach Nua 19:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

20% nationalist population

Looking at the figures for "20%[3] nationalist population" its more a matter of faith than statistics. Ultimately whilst its easy to assume SDLP+SF=20% we do not know if these people are nationalist or not, simply that they vote for broadly nationalist based parties; indeed Alliance polled around 10% and these people could represent nationalist or unionist traditions but not align themselves with the more extreme viewpoints on either side. Indeed its the sentence at large that troubles me, viz "a decision which has angered many of the city's 20% nationalist population"; do we know if these people even care if the Union Flag is flown all year round. Fundementally if the sentence cannot be reasonably citied as a whole then its not fit for inclusion at all; the citation does not reach WP:VERIFY and is potentially in violation of WP:NOR as we are interpreting the conscience of voters by voting pattern. Djegan 13:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the highly salient points raised above, is the fact that these statistics are based upon an electoral population. The electoral population of Lisburn, differs significantly from the city’s general population, and as such the figures cited are completely erroneous, especially given the context in which they are used !!!

Museum

No mention of the Irish Linen Museum!? --Ulster Linen (talk) 11:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]