User talk:SaintCyprian
Hello, I just saw the discussion ont the zombie list page. Be sure to vote! --Charleenmerced Talk 03:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh ok, gee, thanks for your honesty. --Charleenmerced Talk 04:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I will monitor and make comments as appropriate. I also dislike how sorta rude this conversation has taken. --Charleenmerced Talk 04:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey why are you changing the statement that many of the people with Irish descent reside in east milton. We talked to the wikipeida people and gave our sources and they gave their consent. Are you from Milton? I appreciate the time and effort that you put into cleaning up the pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.213.27 (talk) 04:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by the "wikipedia people", but the statement that East Milton is more "Irish" is completely unverifiable. The previous source that did exist at the page did not provide anything to back up your claims. Remember the policy: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. SaintCyprian Talk 17:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Mr. SaintCyprian, Thank you for keeping these pages updated and honest. Thank you for monitoring these pages and keeping punks from Vandalizing these pages. In regards to your deleting the line many irish from milton reside in the east milton neighborhood. I think that statement should be included in Milton's history afterall it is the most Irish American town in America per capita. I have had this discussion with numerious people who monitor this site and after talking with them, and discussing this topic we have come to a conclusion that it should stay. On Dec 31 -ADJ who has also done and continues to do a great job monitoring the sites he has does an exceptionally good job on Cape Cod. He asked to site some demographical statistics "all you need to do is post a clear reference to some reliable source to back you up (such as the elementary-school data you refer to) when you post strong claims about the demographics of Milton; "anyone who lives there knows it" isn't a helpful enough reference. Thanks! AJD (talk) 16:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC) In response to his his remarks I posted elementary school data that showed that vast difference in demographics between East Milton and the rest of the town. I agree with you it does not have to be mentioned in the opening paragraph but it should be mentioned somewhere in the page. Thanks again, and keep up the good work. (posted 18:24, 3 March 2008 by 65.207.106.228)
- I agree with Ajd here; the "anyone who lives here knows it" argument doesn't comply with wikipedia standards for inclusion. Info about the "irishness" of East Milton should not be included in the intro and should be verfiable. I do have to be honest with you, I don't think it is verifiable information, in that I haven't found any reliable sources that support it. In truth, I do question the motives of people who are eager to include this information, perhaps there is a lack of neutrality here? Side note: in future, please remember to sign your posts. SaintCyprian Talk 19:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- I also agree with user:ADJ " anyone who lives here knows it " should not be used as substantial evidence. I also can come to a conclusion that it does not need to be noted it the opening paragrapgh. I just thought it would be fitting to put the statement there becuase it therefore mentions the epodunk statistics. After asking for the elementary school data and it was given user ;ADJ allowed that statement to stay for the past 3 months. Can we come to some sort of middle ground here? I do not ask for it to be noted in the opening paragraph.
-Andpark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andpark (talk • contribs) 21:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- I am uncertain of what you mean by a middle ground. If information has a reliable and verifiable source to back it up, and if that information is relevant and of a neutral point of view, it can be included. If not, then it is not suitable for wikipedia. Again, please sign your posts. SaintCyprian Talk 22:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your quick response. What I meant by middle ground was having it be noted somewhere in the body, it did not have to be mentioned in the opening paragrapgh. Elementary school data was requested and it was provided and it did indeed show the demographic differences. If you would like to discuss this further you can call me @ 617-529-1161. Thanks again for your work monitoring these pages. If it was not for people like you these sites would get vandalized a great deal of amount.--Andpark (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Andpark
- I am uncertain of what you mean by a middle ground. If information has a reliable and verifiable source to back it up, and if that information is relevant and of a neutral point of view, it can be included. If not, then it is not suitable for wikipedia. Again, please sign your posts. SaintCyprian Talk 22:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering why you keep deleting the post. Elementary school data was requested and it was provided and it did indeed show the demographic differences. Please let me know if you would like to discuss this further. Thank you for watching over these sites.--Andpark (talk) 19:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)