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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 75.58.57.10 (talk) at 18:31, 6 April 2008 (→‎Fitna (film): My sincere apology.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Torrents

I'd like a better explanation on your removal of the content I added on Fitna (film) using the edit summary "he film soon became available on many torrent websites" is fine in a related paragraph, but by itself it just looks bad (just like "His wife is Hungarian.") comment out)".--Otterathome (talk) 12:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It stuck out by itself, not connected to a paragraph about its early release (scrambling the timeline). I removed it while working on the fifth paragraph about the second edition, so the fourth paragraph would be smaller. I always intended on adding it back after I got enough information about the second edition to balance the article. MantisEars (talk) 12:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But you removed the commented out version as 'remove space' even though commented out content makes no difference to the look of the article. Having a hard time WP:AGF here.--Otterathome (talk) 13:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it did. At the beginning and the end of the comment, there were newlines which made an unusual space between the release section and the plot section, which I sought to remove. After I removed it, I realized I could have just removed the newlines, then I got your message. I went to reintegrate the torrent part into the fourth paragraph to resolve the conflict, but as I submitted my changes I saw that there was an edit conflict; you had already done it (in a way I wouldn't have, mentioning the torrents after the march 30 reinstatement, putting an artificial break between the security upgrade and Wilders' deletion.) MantisEars (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in the business of giving out barnstars, but you deserve one. You are doing an unbelievably good job of keeping the Fitna article clean and on track. Alexwoods (talk) 18:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Except for failing to provide a solid citation for the inclusion of the term Scarlet Pimpernel. I am not sure where you heard that it is a nickname for someone wanting to remain anonymous, but that would be an incorrect assessment. By that reasoning, a person could call themselves, Zorro or Batman. We need a citation for the usage of the term from a reliable, verifiable source. Without it, it cannot be included. I've opened a discussion topic on the subject. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On the discussion page for Fitna, you said there was not a single citation for its usage, here you say there are no solid citations. Because you posted this comment after the discussion, did you find the citation and decide it was not strong enough? What was wrong with it? In case you don't want to dig through the history, the citation was from NRC Handelsblad [1] MantisEars (talk) 23:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
MantisEars, I second what Alexwoods said. You're help at the Fitna article and its talk page has been invaluable. I'm sorry I haven't been able to assist you lately, but I lack the time, not to mention the energy, to stay on it. There has been quite some tiresome conflicts on the talk page, such as that obnoxious anon trying to frustrate everyone to reach his/her goals. I know that editing can be a real pain sometimes because of things like that. But somehow, so far, you haven't lost your cool yet, being able to muster up enough patience to keep going. Even though I must say that I do not always agree with you, I admire the huge ammount of time you have spend on helping out. Expect some rewards for this real soon. Yours sincerely, Face 14:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

♠ Hi from the "obnoxious Anon" referred to above by Face. My apologies for the undue stress I placed on you and the article - It was quite the education to see that your detached response to heated debate allowed you to place the article over personality. To have remained in control and sifted through the substance of the debate, and shown the magnanimity of changing your position and reverting your edit was a revelation. I am genuinely humbled, you are an asset to Wiki. 18:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)