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merger proposal

I do not think this article should be merged. Michelle Obama and Barack Obama Senior have their own wikipedia pages, even though they are solely famous by relationship to Senator Obama. I think his grandmother deserves her own page too, especially since she's being quoted more and more often in the media.

I would ask that the notability and merge tags be removed. GreekParadise (talk) 16:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Considering that George W. Bush's great-great grandfather has an article of his own, I believe that Barack Obama's step-grandmother, who is still alive and giving interviews to the press, is notable enough to warrant an article. --Tocino 05:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If there's a problem, we could merge and redirect these lesser articles into a "Relatives of Barack Obama" article, and put a summary in the main Obama page with a link to the full article. That would be the most efficient, in my view. --Scharb 17:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scharb (talkcontribs)

I think that Sarah Obama plays a special role in Obama's life that the other Kenyan relatives do not play. There's a reason the media always goes to her for first comment. How about this compromise? We rename the "Sarah Obama" page to be "Sarah Obama and Barack Obama's relatives in Kenya." I think people are more likely to search for "Sarah Obama" than "Kenyan relatives of Barack Obama."GreekParadise (talk) 21:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's way too clumsy for a title (see WP:NAME). I'd agree with Scharb's suggestion, but unless editors of the other tiny sub articles for other relatives agree, there's no point in changing this one.Tvoz |talk 18:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

electricity?

  • Erased "no television, no telephone, no electricity" because in the videos linked you can clearly see plugs in electrical outlets and repeated reference to calls being placed to Sarah Obama are made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.221.251 (talk) 05:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have to be careful of original research and synthesis - would be best to find sources that provide accurate reporting of this, rather than making assumptions from the videos. How do we know for sure that the videos were made in her own residence, for example? Tvoz |talk 18:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

grandmother or aunt?

Sarah Obama is Barack Obama's Paternal Aunt according to his book, Dreams of My Father. Her mother is Barack Obama's Grandmother who left his grandfather and children, Sarah and Barack Sr. with him. Luxie59 (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, if I understand it correctly, I think you have the wrong Sarah. The woman this article is about, who he refers to as his grandmother, was actually his step-grandmother, the third wife of his grandfather, who took care of Barack Sr after Barack Sr's mother left the grandfather. There was another Sarah, I believe, who was Barack Sr.'s sister, Jr.'s aunt. But that's not this one. See this. Tvoz |talk 18:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

delete re-nomination

She isn't notable. I am re-nominating this article to be deleted. ObamaGirlMachine (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support deleting. Not notable and there is no reason to think the person this article is about will be notable in the future WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Being mentioned a few times by the media doesn't make you notable. I'm using this same argument for all biography articles being nominated for deletion that are related to Barack Obama, it's clear that Michelle Obama is the only notable person given an article, the others all seem to be fluff. QuirkyAndSuch (talk) 01:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]