Talk:Civil defense siren

This page is in need of cleanup. This article is overly wordy and repetitive.RSido 03:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I initially reverted your edit because I thought it was simply a mass deletion. However I am re-doing the page and cutting out a bunch of crap, trying to make it all flow better. My apologies --Goldrushcavi 05:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Boy, this article needs work. There's entirely too much information on here for an encyclopedia article. Test patterns for individual cities, the number of individual veins in the solenoids, detailed descriptions of siren models (especially when they have their own page), and a ridiculous number of redundancies are overloading this page with information. Please see Wikipedia:fancruft for detailed reasons NOT to include all this information. Save it for your fan sites. --Goldrushcavi 05:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spacing

There is some spacing in the article - leave it or else it looks stupid (in my opinion)

please leave

thanx

symode09 14:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In some places this helped, but you didn't need to add one between every * single * sentence. --Goldrushcavi 23:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To clean or not to clean... that is the question...

As a somewhat avid air raid/civil defense siren enthusiast, I have to say that this article is wordy, but CD sirens need more explanation than thought by many. Although many topics are repeated and wordy, is it necessary to remove almost all of the information? (I'll go through and see what I can do to cut down and make the article more efficient.) StonedChipmunk 00:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FS Thunderbolt being the "most common siren"?

"The Federal Signal Thunderbolt is the most common of all warning sirens."

Although a citation is needed, I've heard many people say otherwise. Federal Signal Thunderbolts were actually the worst-selling sirens when they were introduced, due to the many moving parts and the brittle design. Since "most common" is a bit vague and many people would think of it as being "most used," maybe it should be something like "most known." StonedChipmunk 00:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added spacing between the differant subjects ie the differant typed of warnings.

symode09 04:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--Jsncrso 16:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC) That is entirely untrue. While they were the most common in large systems years ago, they are not the most common warning sirens of today. Model 5 sirens easily outnumber T-bolts nowadays. I changed it to "The Federal Signal Thunderbolt is the most recognizable of all warning sirens due to its unique shape and design", which is technically an opinion, but more widely accepted than the former.[reply]

That is actually not an opinion. Do you visit AirRaidSirens.com's forum? Everyone there could instantly know a Tbolt, but you have to have a good bit of knowledge to distinguish a Model 2 from a Model 5, or a 2T22 from a 3T22. Plus, no other siren manufacturer made (or makes) sirens with this design. However, remember that the Thunderbolt was the worst-selling when initially introduced only. It gained a bunch of popularity in no time. --_{The preceding signed comment was added by StonedChipmunk and you can contact them here.} 20:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TBolts may have been the most popular to the public because of its growling type noise. Other sirens you tend to not pay attention to as you hear them all the time on vehicles and tend to tone them out. Tbolts sound made a person turn on the radio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.74.54.196 (talk) 23:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to know what the all clear sounds like here in Austell GA since a tornado just went by! Wouldn't that be appropriate information? Maybe some links saying how to find out? I haven't read the whole article yet, so I apologize if the info is there and I missed it.

Here there was an amplified voice saying "tornado warning, take cover immediately" followed after a while by a long continuous tone lasting a minute or two, then later a voice "all clear, the emergency is over" followed by a series of rising tones "wooooee wooooee wooooee wooooee".Another name (talk) 02:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese sirens

Why? anyone?Andycjp 18:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Siren location

Are there any norms regarding the height at which siren to be installed..???? General idea about installation of civil defence siren at heights shall be welcomed.

Headings US-centric

The headings divide civil defense sirens into "US" and "The rest of the world". Theres no reason for wikipedia to give special mention to US sirens, so I'm going to try and merge the two sections (pending any objections here). Damburger 09:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mainly it's that way because other sections of the world do not document their sirens as much. Although I support your decision, please note that siren models around the world differ greatly - Federal Signal sirens, for instance, are mainly only in the US, while the HLS German-made sirens exist only in Europe. It would be wise to make a point of that if you plan on merging the two headings. _{The preceding signed comment was added by StonedChipmunk and you can contact them here.} 18:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article is pretty much US-centric and should be ammended. Terrasidius (talk) 15:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOFIXIT. That is, if you can find sourced information to make it less US-centric. Rdfox 76 (talk) 22:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Cities Section

While there may be justification for the "Major Cities" section, I feel that the section listing minor U.S. cities is probably redundant. The current list is way too short and gives the impression that Civil Defense Sirens aren't common outside of major cities; when, in fact, there are too many "minor cities" that use them to name (for example, nearly every moderately sized town in Oklahoma uses them). Exxoskeleton (talk) 01:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I would guess that every single village, town, and city in the Great Plains of the US has at least one of these operational for tornado warnings, regardless of the size of the city. I know of three villages of less than 200 people each within 20 miles of my house that all have their own, and larger towns and cities have many of them. My town has five of them, and we're only 5600 people. A nearby city of 24,000 has dozens of them. So yeah, mys first thought on seeing the lists was "Wow, that's really unneccesary." Toroca (talk) 05:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]