Talk:Osteomyology

Simon Troote

If that is really your name!!! I intend to discuss and alter the whole article with your kind co-operation - Taking it piece by piece.

Open paragraphes from "Osteomyology to Chiropractic and Osteopathy" (Reference [1]) stands as is. From "Osteomyologists are therapists" to "Statutory Bodies" (ref. [2]) so using wiki rules - quote cannot be endorsed as not contained in your reference.

Alan Clemens ( the real one) Alan Clemens (talk) 08:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedians should assume good faith!! Questioning who SimonTroote is, is not a good way to start and is immaterial. Please discuss changes here before editing. I suggets you post proposed edits here first. And please, remember. All material must be sourced. The best way to go about this may be tackle this a sentence at a time. Long winded, but we will get there. --84.201.173.210 (talk) 12:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Clemens

Welcome Alan. I hope your presence here will strengthen this article. However, my guess is that you have not done too much Wikipedia editing before. I have had to revert you edits as they break a number of really important wikipedia rules. Firstly, we must try to stick to a Neutral Point of View policy (WP:NPOV). This might be quite hard for you as you are so close to the subject. Your opinions cannot be the subject of an encyclopedic entry on osteomyology. Everything in here should be verifiable through secondary sources (WP:V), (WP:CITE).

What you say may well be true, but Wikipedia cannot be the place for original research (WP:NOR). For example, you say "Osteomyologists have a well defined philosophy based on the principles of VITALISM ". We would need reliable source for this statement if we are to include it. Much, however does read like promotion rather than verifiable material. For example, "From the volume of patients treated on a weekly basis, and testimonials, the practice of Osteomyology seems to be lauded around the UK." This clearly cannot form part of the article.

I would strongly suggest that any future proposed additions are discussed here first, showing the proposed addition and the sources you will cite. As NPOV is going to be hard for you, I suggest you let other editors make the changes once they have been agreed. SimonTroote (talk) 11:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alan. I strongly urge you to take some time out and consider what wikipedia is and how best to contribute to it. You cannot just replace articles with unreferenced/unsourced opinion pieces that look very much like marketing for your organisation. If you really are Alan Clemens who founded osteomyology then your contribution will be hugely beneficial - but only if you contribute in the true wikipedia collaborative style. This means sourcing your contributions and reaching consensus with other editors before editing. Your position as founder does not give you authority to make this article whatever you want. Should you continue to disrupt the article then you may get banned and then unable to help shape this article further. Warnings have been placed on your talk page.

Please start with suggesting changes here. Point out flaws and errors and suggest sourced alternatives. We look forward to working with you constructively. --SimonTroote (talk) 17:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

I have reverted the last edit as it broke references and was unexplained. Let's try to make this article sound by discussing how to improve it. SimonTroote (talk) 22:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]