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Suspected sockpuppeteer

Fredrick day (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Allemandtando (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
88.105.116.147 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (June 22 vandalism)
90.241.224.197 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (July 6 vandalism)
Killerofcruft (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (for completeness, Koc --> Allemandtando, legitimate name change)


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Abd (talk) 16:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Evidence

Fredrick day was blocked for vandalism and gross incivility, see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Fredrick day, Wikipedia talk:Suspected sock puppets/Fredrick day (with lists of used IPs), and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Fredrick day (2nd). Fd has continued to vandalize my user and talk pages with lowered frequency, as well as to stalk me. Latest incidents were April 29,[1] June 11,[2] June 22,[3] and July 6.[4]. (Bold is presumptive, other is likely). There was also an edit to User talk:Shapiros10 or User talk:Xp54321, I'm not sure which, which seems to have been deleted, possibly by Alison, and which may have been made in the last month.

My suspicion was originally aroused by the behavior of User:Allemandtando, which resembled that of Fredrick day in its level of confrontation. This editor registered as User:Killerofcruft and quickly became involved in an AfD, as well as in controversy following the AfD, and I previously noted the similarity to Fredrick day. What I had not noticed until today was (1) I edited that AfD at 20:00, 19 June 2008.[5] Koc registered at 20:32, 19 June 2008, thus suspicion that this was related to my edit is enhanced, and then the first edit by Koc was a minute later, to Midnighter‎, which could seem unrelated, except that "Stormwatch" would be a likely search for someone researching Donna Upson, the subject of the AfD. When the AfD closed merge, Killerofcruft immediately engaged actively in handling the merge, showing high interest, and became contentious when the closing admin reversed his decision.

See a report on Koc's earliest edit history at User:Abd/Allemandtando.

Killerofcruft was the subject of an AN/I report where the appearance of sock puppetry was discussed, but, except for my comment,[6] other puppet masters were suspected.[7].

Note that the AN/I report was closed with a note that it stood as a warning to Koc, but Koc later dismissed it as "crap."[8] Very much like Fredrick day. If this is not Fredrick day, it would appear that, unfortunately, he's been cloned. Because of Fd's extensive use of open wireless routers and proxies, this may not be conclusive, but, at least, it should be checked.

RFCU would appear warranted, and urgent because of expiring CU records.

Comments

This is nonsense and a fishing trip, some of the comments are truely bizzare - for example first edit by Koc was a minute later, to Midnighter‎, which could seem unrelated, except that "Stormwatch" would be a likely search for someone researching Donna Upson.

The Midnighter is a comic book character own by DC Comics, he is a member of the superhero team The Authority, previously to this, within his fictional universe, he was a member of Stormwatch another superhero team written by Warren Ellis (it's very good by the way and worth picking up). I know all of this because... em.. I'm a comic book collector. Why stormwatch is related to Donna Upson is beyond me - is she a superhero as well?

This user has been warned on his page by administrators a number of times not to harasses other users - most recently in his conduct (from first glance) towards some administrators. Why he has such an interest in me, I just don't know. I have asked him on a number of occasions to fill a request for user comment and bring this before the community, but it seems that's just too much hard work. I consider this sock puppet case an abuse of process - I spend my days cleaning up articles and adding scholar sources, I've never been warned, I've never been blocked, I've never been warned that I'll be warned! nothing! The editor should be directed to use the correct process and file a Request for user comment - I will comply with any judgements put down by the community in such a process - no questions asked. On the evidence presented here, the intrusion into my identity presented by CU is a fishing trip and abusive. --Allemandtando (talk) 16:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further comment: I'm guessing this abuse of process was prompt by the MFD of a watchfile he keeps about me - see here. Note, when this was nominated it looked like this as it had done for two weeks or so - it's only purpose was to let me know he was watching me.
I have a further problem in that I have been advised off site not to communicate with Abd in any form (which this does) for reasons I cannot explain here because they might constitute WP:LEGAL but I will be willing to discuss via email with an admin. --Allemandtando (talk) 16:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appears totally circumstantial. Some claim could be made that those IP's are socks of frederick day, but no claim aside from vague behavioral relation (and an emphatic denial) links KoC to frederick day. This looks like a fishing trip. See what a checkuser results in, but if it is anything other than the exact same IP as Fred day at the moment of account creation, there isn't much else to go on. Also, for circumstantial evidence, this SSP is woefully short on diffs of KoC's behavior and long on allegations. Protonk (talk) 16:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusions