User talk:Bonadea/Archive 16

Sambalpuri Region

The following talk page comments have been archived, but I leave them here until the AfD for Sambalpuri Region has been closed one way or another. --Bonadea (talk) 12:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not argue about the Sambalpuri Region page here. The place to discuss is the deletion discussion for the article. --Bonadea (talk) 09:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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Sambalpuri Region Afd Clarification

Hello, As regards to your first doubt, there is no generally prevalent concept in Orissa of a ‘Sambalpuri region’. Culturally speaking, only districts of Sambalpur and Balangir are proximate. All other districts viz. Kalahandi, Sundargarh, Koraput, Dhenkanal and Phulbani districts, claimed in the article to be a part of the ‘Sambalpuri region’, are culturally distant and heterogeneous, have dialects different from Sambalpuri, and which are closer to standard Oriya language. There is absolutely no uniformity: cultural, linguistic, traditional whatsoever, between the districts of Kalahandi, Sundargarh, Koraput, Dhenkanal and Phulbani on one side with that of Sambalpur & Balangir on the other. As you can see for yourself, even the primary author of the article lists cultural motifs like Sambalpuri Saree, sambalpuri dialect, Sambalpuri festivals, Sambalpuri dance (Like Karma), Sambalpuri songs-Rangbati, Sambalpuri structures (Hirakud), which are all related to Sambalpur district only, and not the other districts which have been artificially argued to be forming part of Sambalpuri region/culture. That’s simply because there are no uniformities and commonalities at all!

As regards to the ‘Koshal Kranti Dal’ party, that exists only on paper and has not been a real movement yet. It’s a miniscule microscopic minority.

Further, as per to your suggestion about an article on Koshal State, that may not be feasible as there is no real lebensraum of this notional state.
Thank you. softdynamite(talk) 18:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sambalpuri

First of all let me clear the whole thing that User Softdynamite and User Pdipu are the same person who are trying to delete the article created by me called sambalpuri region.i suspect this is one person with two different name,because softdynamite profile was created few week back and he started vandalising my article as soon has his profile got created.Let me clear something here..Sambalpuri is a term generally used to Identify people of Western part of Orissa called Kosal region.The language spoken by 10 district of western orissa alias Kosal region is sambalpuri and not oriya.I have given references in my article also.The source of the reference about the sambalpuri language is parliament of India,Where a Member of Parliament has raised a question to include sambalpuri under the 8th scheduled of India constitution which recognises Indian languages.Like language all festivals and traditions are also altogether different from Oriya.But People from coastal part of orissa to which I am sure Pdipu and softdynamite belongs doesnot accept this fact.western orissa alias kosal region is India's poorest region,this claim can be supported by enough article on net regardng this.Still after 60 years of Independence people are dying of hunger ..but for coastal orissa people who dominates orissa state politics ,People of western orissa are second citizen.Due to this mentally here also user Pdipu and Softdynamite are trying to supress the fact like they do in the orissa state.Please send me you personal mail id:- I will provide you enormous documents even government document which will prove sambalpuri is separate language and culture.I want to clear another thing.Sambalpur is the name of a district of western orissa,whereas sambalpuri refers to the custom,traditon and language followed by 10 district of western orissa alias kosal region..Let's wikipedia do the justice....Let's truth prevails...Thank you..>talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

more on sambalpuri

I also wanted to clear some confusion of softdynamite.First of all sambalpuri saree is made in Barpali in Bargarh district,patnagarh in Balangir district and sonepur in subarnapur district.All these places doesnot belongs to sambalpur district but still the handloom is called sambalpuri saree..So here softdynamite has tried to misguide everyone by false Information.Second thing he has mentioned about Karma dance which is performed by a particular community of Balangir and Sundergarh district.Again he has provided wrong Information.Regarding sambalpuri song Rangabati,It was composed by Ramesh Kumar mahanand of Bargarh district and it was sung by Jitendra haripal of Sambalpur district and Krishna Patel of Bargarh district.But Mr.Softdynamite has again misguides us with wrong Information.Regarding structure Hirakud dam it covers 4 district of western Orissa namely sambalpur,Bargarh,jharsuguda and sundergarh...If I am wrong than you can go through any websites on western orissa like koshalbasi.com,navratnanews.com etc....So on a whole user softdynamite and user pdipu are on a mission to suprress the identity of kosali alias sambalpuri people by deleting this article...My humble request is to please block these kind of users who are giving false information to justify their points... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyajit Nayak (talk • contribs) 15:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

This whole discussion belongs in the AfD discussion, not on my talk page. --Bonadea (talk) 16:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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Agnetha Fältskog page

I see you have now removed the 'Stalker' section on this page. Probably for the best if it is continually reverted to tell only one side of the story!

I am concerned about the 'Comeback' section on this page. Most of it contains strap lines from various newspapers and reads like a promotional brochure for the artiste!

Having read the guidelines you kindly referred me to, I noted the insistence for such pages to be a reference point and not a tabloid newspaper format.

I would be grateful for your viewpoint on this.

regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivor Kemp (talk • contribs) 11:14, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The "Stalker" section was removed by somebody else. I'm not particularly concerned either way, as long as the contents are well-sourced. And as for sources, yes, tabloids aren't really ideal and I avoid using them as sources myself. Perhaps you should start a discussion on the article's talk page, to get people who are more informed about that particular subject to provide their views? --Bonadea (talk) 11:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Words of kindness

File:Rethink.gifReconsider

Keep up the good work-- Satyajit Nayak (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

You have been doing a good job. -- soft dynamite (talk) 16:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Your vandal fighting frequently crops up on my watchlist. Nice work, keep it up. WilliamH (talk) 21:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Cookie

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Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hope you reconsider and decide to stay : )

--Badgernet ^Talk 09:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania 2010 could be coming to Stockholm!

I'm leaving you a note as you may be interested in this opportunity.

People from all six Nordic Wiki-communities (sv, no, nn, fi, da and is) are coordinating a bid for Wikimania 2010 in Stockholm. I'm sending you a message to let you know that this is occurring, and over the next few months we're looking for community support to make sure this happens! See the bid page on meta and if you like such an idea, please sign the "supporters" list at the bottom. Tack (or takk), and have a wonderful day! Mike H. Fierce! 08:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

External links vs Samples

Hi Bonadea! Thanks a lot for your clarifications you've provided. If possible, I'd like to ask your more detailed opinion on the subject. The article I modified speaks about new possibilities that Internet has brought for freelancers. Isn't it good to provide sample links that are exactly on subject? RealDracaena (talk) 08:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Be FAMOUS to appear in Wikipedia

why many bands can be on wikipedia with songs that talk about New Year's Eve and New Year while my band, that's called "New Year's Eve", can't be on Wikipedia??? Aren't we famous enough? it's because of this?! ... I don't think Wikipedia it's really FREE! because "free" is the same of "for everyone"! Our band exists! and it's called New Year's Eve! so we have a place in the history! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PicheNYE (talk • contribs) 19:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. --Bonadea (talk) 21:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Boatbookings 01/09/08

Dear Bonadea,

Apologies for putting our site on the wikipedia webpages, I had added it to a few more before receiving your message so please do not block me!! I will review where we add ourselves as an external link, we do actually have useful information on our site regarding chartering yachts and I will make sure that links are to the pages of use and relevance to the Wikipedia entry.

I hope you have a nice day!

) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boatbookings (talk • contribs) 15:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for reading up on the policies. Cheers, --Bonadea (talk) 16:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Wargrave

What gives you the right to think you can correct my entries?? I am very interested to know why you think your knowledge/opinion to be of greater value than mine?? Romly (talk) 17:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

My addition to the Wargrave page, although vulger, is true so deserves to be included on the site. The tradition has been going for 15 years, and even though it may not be to your taste the information is factual - so surely this means Wikipedia is a 'snobby' factual encyclopedia as it will not include information not to your taste. What happened to the 'people's encyclopedia'??

Forgot to sign Romly (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Responding on your talk page. --Bonadea (talk) 18:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Friendly note about talk page messages

Hello. As a recent editor at User talk:Pigfriend, I wanted to leave you a friendly reminder that as per WP:USER, editors may remove messages at will from their own talk page. While we may prefer that messages be archived, policy does not prohibit users -including anonymous editors- from deleting comments from their own talk pages. The only talk page messages that may not be removed (as per WP:BLANKING) are declined unblock requests (but only while blocks are still in effect), confirmed sockpuppetry notices, or shared IP header templates (for anonymous editors) ... and these exceptions are just to keep a user from gaming the system. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 21:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, yes, I'm aware of that - but this is a sockpuppet of a blocked user, and since he blanked warnings and kept on vandalising it seemed quite obvious to me that he was removing the warnings to put off a block as long as possible, because when you see a blank talk page you'll normally start with a warning 1 or 2. I'll keep it in mind for the future, though - thanks for the heads-up :-) --Bonadea (talk) 21:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

oi

why did u delete my perfectly good edit about MEAT. if you persist in doing so i will ban you myself.

thanks mate. best mate BM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasputingangsta (talk • contribs) 16:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

hello

i do work for the kiddchris website and we want the wikipedia page to be the way i put it. please leave it alone.

MaDaddy —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaDaddy (talk • contribs) 13:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

If you work for the site you should preferrably not edit it at all, and you should in any case not continue to flaunt Wikipedia policies about encyclopedic tone, verifiability and encyclopedic content. --Bonadea (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Help understanding why a page was deleted (Orangmike deleted it :)

Hello! I wrote an article called "Zona Plus" that Orangemike deleted for advertising. It was not my intention to advertise- any references to the product working were from very valid sources. Can you please help me? We were under the impression that our page would be okay based on this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resperate. I do not know how to re-write it to make it okay. I also wrote him, but your name shows on the history for the page before it was deleted and I was hoping you could help! Healthy4life (talk) 16:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. --Bonadea (talk) 17:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help! I am working through the guide you suggested and now have a "work-in-progress" article on my talk page. If you ever have a free moment to look at it that would be great. Thank you again, Healthy4life (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Healthy: I moved that from your talkpage to a sandbox, User:Healthy4life/Zona. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Allen Bukoff

My edits to the page were not vandalism, mere statements of actual truths. As an art historian and critic I am well aware of who Bukoff A is, and the fact that the original article is indeed a falsified, apparent, publicity stunt. Allen Bukoff (talk) 14:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Inserting derogatory language is always vandalism because it does not conform to Wikipedia's policy of neutral language. Existing, published criticism can and should be mentioned in the article, using neutral language and with verifiable sources. I agree that the current article leaves something to be wished for, in particular it lacks sources, but that is no reason to violate the policy about articles about living persons which really is rather an important Wikipedia rule. Incidentally, I assume that you are not actually the Allen Bukoff in the article, so it would be a good idea to change your user name lest you be suspected of trying to impersonate somebody else. --Bonadea (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Please keep an eye on Fluxus, too. I've reverted similar vandalism there and posted a note on the editor's talk page. David in DC (talk) 16:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Orissa

Stop using this page for your personal vandetta.......This page is not for any scadalous topic....This act started by people like you will only lead to more hatred..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandalucky (talk • contribs) 08:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Said by the person who made this edit. You have been asked to adhere to the neutral point of view policy, several times, including two final warnings. Unfortunately, since you keep disregarding the policies, you have now been reported to the Wikipedia administrators for vandalism. --Bonadea (talk) 09:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

The use of an existing name as an anonymous front is common and accepted practise in the art world (see Luther Blissett, Sharon Merson etc). The post about Allen Bukoff in retrospect was misguided and not that funny really, I accept that and apologise duly. No malice was intended. I have modified the post in case it is ever read and would like to delete it "myself" eventually. There is now nothing offensive in the post and any subsequent deletion by the wikipolice shall be taken as a personal attack on my freedom of speech ;-) I actually know Allen Bukoff. I also work closely with artists from the Fluxus group of which Allen Bukoff is not part of, nor is he accepted or respected among the said community. The article is in fact quite simply not true. This is fact. Check the literature and catalogues relating to Fluxus 1962-present. The original Allen Bukoff page is in fact a POV.

Allen Bukoff (talk) 10:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Orssa Page Edit

Firstly I appologize if any of the edits from us was vandelism but please note that the edits were made on ground realities in Orissa. Orissa has become a breeding ground for fundamentelists. If you think, whatI have written in a piece of personal vendetta, then why dont you do a google search for "Orissa Violence".

Christians in Orissa have been burnt to death, Nuns who work for orphans are raped and molested , christians are driven out of their homes to the forests where there is no food or shelter, churches are destroyed ----------- AND YOU CALL WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN AS PERSONAL VENDETTA . The violence in Orissa is part of the strategy of : "Hindutva" , an experiment by fundamentelists and fanatics to regain power in Orissa.

Wakeupworld (talk) 05:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. --Bonadea (talk) 06:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Apple Bottoms web page

HI, can you explain what about my content is not acceptable, as you keep removing my page. I work for the company, and the current information about the company lacks any informative content. Please explain to me what i specifically must change to be able to leave my listing up. My boss is getting anxious with me as I was meant to have the page up for Wikipedia, and this is my first week here. Please let me know ASAP what content I must omit, in order to be able to successfully post my information.

Thank you for your consideration, DManzor —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmanzor (talk • contribs) 18:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Please read the information in the notices on your talk page first, including the information that is linked from the notices, because that actually explains a) why an employee of the company should not edit the Wikipedia article about the company, and b) what sort of content, and what register, is relevant for Wikipedia. Sorry to hear that your boss is giving you a hard time, but s/he needs to understand that you can't go against Wikipedia policy. --Bonadea (talk) 19:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Dmanzor (talk) 13:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)well if i keep getting deleted then let me start by telling you what is incorrect in the current listing so maybe we can work from there. To begin, it lists apple bottoms as a "clothing line", this is inaccurate, as the company sells more then clothing, it should be instead a "fashion and lifestyle brand" because they make apparel, shoes, accessories, glasses, handbags, and childrens clothing. Secondly, the whole part about the rappers who sing about their brand in their songs, should be under pop culture. Also "The name of the brand is derived from a slang term for a woman with large, rounded buttocks" is a negative statement which implies the brand is meant for bigger girls. ... i would like to start by editing the above mentioned tings, in a neutral, tone. so please do not delete my comments. I will justify other issues with the current page before i go ahead and change them.

Thanks

Dmanzor (talk) 15:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC) Hi again, ive gone ahead and made some edits. everything is neutral and cited. Ive left a lot of what was already up there, and mostly just added some factual information. Please contact me if there is something that does not meet your criteria prior to deleitng it, so that i can rather tweak it to your specifications first.

Thank you for your consideration.