Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Dominic Luciano

How are two newspaper references and a reference to a Harley-Davidson page (which happens to be a very trusted franchise, and a legitimate source) not substantial sources? And how do you know he is just a "local musician" just because he has no "major" newspaper or press articles. The fact is he is known as far across the world as Italy and Greece. Just Google his name and if you look, he practically owns the first page. Just because any of you have never heard of him doesn't mean he's not a "notable musician" or just a "local musician". For example, I know dozens of people that haven't even heard of Paramore or Love Equals Death. Does that mean they are not notable? In fact, go look at Love Equals Death's article. Their sources are just a bunch of irrelevant links to pages about them and their members. "The Rock N Roll Palace Of Love" is a comic strip. And besides that, they have ONE link to a newspaper. ONE!!! Dominic Luciano has TWO to a newspaper. So let us just delete their Wikipedia article, OK?

Also, I have checked out all the other references and external links for Dominic Luciano, and all of them are his personal pages, and were edited all by Dominic Luciano. How are those NOT substantial sources when all the information is "straight from the horses mouth"? This is ridiculous because someday someone is going to post this article again. So are you all just going to keep deleting it just because he doesn't have 5 manufactured studio albums? How about instead of flagging it for deletion, you go and read about his and check out what the sources say. Do any of you know what Cerebral Palsy or Neurofibromatosis is? Anyone who is able to overcome even one of those drawbacks and make as beautiful music as Dominic does is a NOTABLE PERSON. Not just a notable musician, A NOTABLE PERSON. I went to his MySpace page and listened and was in awe.

Like I said, this is ridiculous! Please remove the deletion tag at once, or I will risk being banned by removing it myself because the world deserves to know about someone like Dominic; Someone who has triumphed to be a very talented and gifted person. Have a heart guys.

Thanks.

--Rrindie126 (talk) 19:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am the creator of this article. I know Dominic Luciano personally. All the facts on the article are 100% true. He is not at all just a local musician. The fact that rrinde126 stated above that he is known halfway across the world is true. It was a post on one of his first blogs when he first started selling his music. And I also checked out the Love Equals Death page that rrindie126 was also talking about, and it is true that their sources are worse than that of Dominic Luciano. I am with rrindie126 on the fight against the deletion of this article, and if it's sources you want, I will find them.

Don't delete this article, or I swear I will be the one to continue reposting this article until Wikipedia gives up on deleting it. The world wants and needs to know about him. And go ahead and ban me too. I'll just keep coming back.

You're going to have to leave this article someday.

Thanks for not deleting.

P.S. And If all you can do to get rid of his article is call him a Pokemon, you guys really do suck.

--Quixotic92 (talk) 19:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to point out an important note:

Within Wikipedia, notability is an inclusion criterion based on the encyclopedic suitability of an article topic. The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded." Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular" – although not irrelevant – is secondary.

According to this, this article should be kept due to the fact it is "unusual enough to deserve attention". I'd also like to add this quote as well: "Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular" – although not irrelevant – is secondary." . Therefore this article should not be deleted

I consider this case closed.

--71.34.239.151 (talk) 23:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is another supporting topic/statement:

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

  2. Has had a charted hit on any national music chart.
  7. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city;
  9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.

Seems he's met 3 of these criteria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quixotic92 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see not the slightest sign that he's met any one of them. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well then I will show you how:

1. "Terminal" charted Top 40 on the online international music charts.

2. He is one of the most revered pianist in Medford, Oregon. That's fact not statement.

3. His award for "Best High School Jazz Soloist in Oregon" was won through a competition at the University of Oregon. That is a major award from a major facility.

If that's not proof enough then you're obviously a blind fool. So look again and while you're at it remove the deletion banner, or I will do it myself.

Gracias.

--Quixotic92 (talk) 00:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really. Which international music charts would those be? '[O]ne of the most revered...' is an objective fact? With objective standards and a reliable source backing it up? The University of Oregon gives out major music awards? None of those rationales--and they're rationales, not reasons--comes even close to meeting the cited standards by any reasonable measure. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those charts would be OurStage where some of the best musicians in the world compete. Check 'em out. Get educated.

That fact he is the best can be proved in several ways. The unfortunate thing is a moron like you would never believe any of them.

And yes. The U of O does give out major music awards because they host major music events and competitions. I myself have been a part of a few of them in fact.

I've had enough of this. I am requesting to have this case reviewed by several other non-biased administrators since you're too moronic to realize that these are legitimate reasons for inclusion. Have you even read the article?

And who the hell made you an administrator?

And go ahead and ban me for saying that and go ahead and delete my article. All I've ever heard all through high school and college is Wikipedia was full of idiots, and I guess they're right. I bet you're just some snot-faced nerd sitting behind a computer and you don't want to include this article because you're jealous because of the accomplishments this fine young man has had, and the struggles he has had to overcome. So you know what? Bring it on because this article is gonna make it on here someday.

--Quixotic92 (talk) 01:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]