Talk:Paradise

paradise and its equivalent in arabic--الفردوس -- which derived clearely from Persian ,an Indo-arian language closely related to Sanskrit,in addition to another word giving the same meaning in arabic i.e.الجنة which means holy garden.All these equivalents are closely related to the Egyptian concept of heavenly kingdom of Osiris - wrongly described as underworld-as a similar to under world in Greek and Roman mythology.This is a great mistake.The kingdom of Osiris is called SEkHET pronounced سخت which means Field and more precisely Agricultural field .At this point all similarities are disclosed either in sansikrit ,persian, arabic or europian items.

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I've removed the claim that 'paradise' is derived from Sanskrit paradesha, since it is untrue (see etymology online), the modern European word is clearly derived from the Avestan through Greek. I've put in a sentence referring to the Sanskrit word, but it would be useful to see a reference to it, and its meaning. Imc 18:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Sanskrit is thousand of years older than Greek and Avestan, and most probably the actual form Paradise is derived from Sanskrit Paradesha through Avestan and Greek. Many actual words derive from Sanskrit (i.e. the word wine derives from Latin vinum, which derives from Sanskrit vena – "to love" –, from which were derived also the terms "Venus" and "Venere"; see here) though I actually can't find a reference. /\/\π 13:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

pairidaêza would be related to a Skt. *pari- + deha (from the root dih 'smear', not diz) which however does not exist. Someone must remove this wrong skt etymology.

Quoting the reference book, entitled, Insight on the Scriptures, says:

Some lexicographers would derive the Hebrew word par·des′ (meaning, basically, a park) from the same source. But since Solomon (of the 11th century B.C.E.) used par·des′ in his writings, whereas existing Persian writings go back only to about the sixth century B.C.E., such derivation of the Hebrew term is only conjectural. (Ec 2:5; Ca 4:13) The remaining use of par·des′ is at Nehemiah 2:8, where reference is made to a royal wooded park of Persian King Artaxerxes Longimanus, in the fifth century B.C.E. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.144.241 (talk) 02:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Paradise is the best possible world

Healthy is also happy, so a healthy world must be a paradise. And since a healthy one works better than a broken one, a healthy paradise like world does well in competition with other kinds of worlds: paradise is the best way to arrange things also in the modern competition.

Some crazy new intro

No biggie but I took out some weird new intro that is mostly biblical gibberish dealing with mormons and commas. Pretty weird, forgot to sign in for the change though which sucks. TostitosAreGross 05:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We will end up in a global paradise

Here are 28 points of view via which we can end up in a global paradise - published only in the internet at www.paradisewins.net.

The concept of health is good for fitting together all the different viewpoints: 1) power (health gives strenght), 2) benefit (health gives a strong and well arranged working force and consequently a high standard of living from which to benefit, healthy goals give a strong motivation), 3) freedom (live and let others live is a rule to follow in order to achieve a maximum amount of freedom for everyone and a healthy society in this sense), 4) control (the health of practises makes people agree with the practises and creates no opposing forces), 5) life according to feelings (healthily according to feelings is a part of the full health), 6) moral (moral means guarding the good health of the whole world, evil means needless breaking), 7) science (a healthy animal is the fittest), 8) most religions (a healthy world / a paradise and good moral are things to aim at), 9) computer logic (healthy = fully functioning = times 1, broken = non-funtioning = times 0), 10) common sense (health is a common sense concept which all know well), 11) the views of those who bring up children (they are typically for healthy ways of living and good moral), 12) the views of the traditional Finnish culture and propably of most other cultures too (it is good to cultivate good health and stupid to break needlessly), 13) a view capable of handling large interconnected systems (health is a good concept which can be generalised to all kinds of systems), 14) a sexuality oriented view (what could be more attractive than health and happiness), 15) the points of view of aiming at manliness or womanliness (healthy natural life according to emotions is what the charm and capacity of each sex is based on), 16) the view that no material world exists (the wholes stay unchanged and the truth about healthy versus broken functioning stays valid), 17) the wish to protect nature (health of the world means among other things the protection of nature), 18) the wish to develop technology (a healthy life in a nature environment should bring the best ground for theoretical intelligence - see my pages www.paradisewins.net/increasingintelligence.html and www.paradisewins.net/interconnectedness.html) and 19) the need to secure the future. 20) a picture of humans according to which there is no need for anyone to do experiments on humans like those during the holocaust 21) the hopes of exhausted workers needing rest and variation to their lives 22) the dream of just about all school children of more life and less dry school like things (see my book Work Efficiency and Likings for the rationality of feelings and the role of atmospheres in thinking) 23) the goal of solving the fight between good and evil in a positive way via the concept of health - which should give you what you want or even more... 24) the sovinist point of view of wanting everything to be well grounded on hard values too (see my two books!) 25) the feminist point of view of wanting respect for women's values: for feelings and moral (see my two books for the fitting together of these last two!) 26) hard war like rationality 27) a view completely according to feelings and even the sense of beauty 28) It is a view that could prevent people being controlled by the force of technology etc. in a way that is in contradiction with the freedom of individuals or moral. (Health of the whole i.e. high moral is the most beneficial way to arrange things.) 29) One's own good (Allying with the health of the world = excellent moral, gives the strongest allegiancy.) Why happens this to be so? Is it just an unlikely coincidence? No: it is a truth which we can well trust since the EVOLUTION - or God - has shaped us so that our health and health of the society are what our nature, our feelings, instincts (= directions) and understanding (= a map, directed only because we have the goal of answering our needs which the feelings and instincts too help to answer) together, guide us toward and what gives us, the society and the world at large its best possible functioning.InsectIntelligence (talk) 07:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

See http://www.edenwillwin.info 84.239.162.126 (talk) 18:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)