Talk:Kyrenia

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I think it's a bit unrealistic to take out a whole sentence like "It is a busy little town with a beautiful harbour" on the (presumed) grounds that it's not NPOV. It's a piece about a place which is attractive to tourists and this is presumably one on the reasons why. I have restored the sentence with a slight amendment which I hope makes it a touch less POV and hence, I hope, acceptable. Nevilley

Zoe, I notice you just changed it back. I assume this is about the above point again? If you have a problem with the statement that the town is popular with visitors because it has a beautiful harbour, can you please make it clear what this objection is, or have a go at rewording it into a form you feel is acceptable? I feel this would be much more productive than us both just tinkering with it in the dark as it were. :) Nevilley 10:24 Dec 4, 2002 (UTC)

This is a suggestion before I go and do anything rash like changing things ;) Shouldn't this page be moved to Girne and have a redirection from Kyrenia? Given that it's a place in the Turkish part of Cyrpus should the article not use the Turkish name primarily? Mallanox 15:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- I do not think any change to the title of the page is warranted because it is the universally accepted name for both turks and greeks on Cyprus. Given the political repercussions on this, to do so would provoke an unwarranted edit war.(UNFanatic 20:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]
  - Hmm, I am somewhat confused. I work for an international company and today had correspondence from a client in Cyprus who gave his address as Girne. Is his usage of the Turkish name the exception rather than the rule? Mallanox 02:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - And what company do you work for? Apparently you forget the invasion and the fact that the north is occupied by TUrkish troops and an illegal entity as far as the UN and the EU is concerned. Better to keep the names Anglicized (like Kyrenia) to avoid any issues.(UNFanatic)
      - Whoa, steady on there. I'm not looking for a fight, I genuinely don't know. I'm not really interested in the politics of the area, I only want to do what is best and most accurate for Wikiepdia. I only looked at this page as I'd never heard of Girne and decided to find out more to help me do my job. Mallanox 09:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        My family was driven out from Kyrenia I would appreciate it if you DIDNT change the name, it is the universally accepted name long before the Turks came to the island.
        Please note I have removed a personal attack in accordance with WP:RPA. I have no intention of changing the name. Mallanox 02:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Iwonder if you would do ythe same if your family was driven out from their home, you think you are an impartial observer. I burn with hatred for turks and for good reason.

On this name issue - is there any Wikipedia policy on this sort of thing? To me, it would seem to be a case without argument that the main name for this article should be Girne. That is the town's current official name, and to put another name before it destroys the impartiality and the accuracy that a proper encyclopedia must have. I wonder, what would be the fate of the editor of a printed encyclopedia if his reason for wanting one particular entry name over another was "I burn with hatred for Turks". Meowy 21:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You say that your family was driven out from Girne, but Eoka soldiers killed womans and childs. North cyprus belongs NOT to South Cyprus. It is a free country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omerli (talk • contribs) 17:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kyrenia ship

There's a famous ancient shipwreck found outside the harbor that was reconstructed and put in a museum. A replica was also built. This should be included in the article because most of the world heard of Kyrenia because of this. Vasa2 (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Location of Kyrenia

Kyrenia is in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, it is not a part of Republic of Cyprus. The 'Annan Plan' suggested it was a part of TRNC, the current peace talks suggests it will remain a part of TRNC. So, why don't we provide the world w/ correct information ?

Kyrenia/Girne

Would it help if the second sentence were replaced, since "Internationally recognized as part of the Republic of Cyprus, Kyrenia has been under Turkish control since the 1974 invasion." Isn't legally correct.

Would it help - and be more legally correct to replace it with something like "Kyrenia has been under Turkish control since 1974, following the Turkish Military intervention (under the provisions of the Treaty of Guarantee of the Republic of Cyprus)."

The above replacement does not represent a POV ... it represents fact. I have no issue with the former but don't believe that it should be used as a substitute for the latter.