Talk:Doppelkopf

Scoring wrong

The scoring and the examples are not correct, although it's often played that way. The official scoring differs if, for example, "Keine 60" was announced, but the kontra party reached 60 points (which is the 3rd example). Correct is:

1 because kontra won the game
1 because kontra won against the elders
2 because Re was announced
1 because Keine 90 was announced
1 because Keine 60 was announced

This results is a score of 6, not 8.

If kontra got 90 points, there is an extra score:

1 for reaching 90 against the announcement of Keine 60.

If kontra got 120 points, there is even one more extra score:

1 for reaching 120 against the announcement of Keine 90.

In the 4th example, Re, keine 60 was announced, Kontra party said "Kontra". Re gets 178 and therefore loses, the score is

1 because kontra won the game
1 because kontra won against the elders
2 because Re was announced
1 because Keine 90 was announced
1 because Keine 60 was announced
2 because Kontra was announced

This results is a score of 8, not 10.

In the 5th example, Solo player announces "Re, keine 90" but only manages to get 87 points for himself, the score is

1 because kontra won the game
2 because Re was announced
1 because Keine 90 was announced (by Re)
1 for reaching 120 against the announcement of Keine 90.
1 because Re got less than 90

This results is a score of 6, not 7, and thus -18 for Re.

Note that there is no extra score when Kontra wins a solo. -- 77.135.160.4 (talk) 18:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie

If a Jack of Clubs wins the last trick, it will lead to a score point counted for the party that collected the trick.

This is part of the official rules, not a variant.

But A Charlie is also scored if a party loses their Jack of Clubs to the opposing team in the last trick. is an inofficial variant. -- 77.135.160.4 (talk) 18:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dullen

The most common variant is called Spiel mit (game with) Dullen, which makes the Ten of Hearts (often called Dulle) the highest trump in every normal game as well as any color solo. In this variant, there are actually more trumps than non-trump cards. [...] This variant is so popular that it can be considered to be part of the standard rules.

In fact, this also is not a variant. The Ten of Hearts are the highest trumps according to the official rules by the Deutscher Doppelkopfverband, and the first Ten of Hearts is always higher than the second one, allowing the player at first position to surely win the first trick by playing a Ten of Hearts, for example in order to "marry" when a Hochzeit is played. -- 77.135.160.4 (talk) 18:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]