Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 March 15

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15 March 2009

"The Above Ground Sound" of Jake Holmes

Deletion was entirely unreasonable. WP:MUSIC says that albums by notable artists may be notable. This article was around for a few years before nominator claimed it was unnotable. The final vote was 4 to keep, 7 to delete, which is not a concensus.SPNic (talk) 00:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's ~~almost~~ 2 to 1 in favour of deletion. How can you say that was no concensus? Furthermore, there is no guidelines which state length of time an article is on wikipedia is a mandatory keep. A-Kartoffel (talk) 01:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually that's 8 (delete) to 4 (keep), if you count my vote as well. A-Kartoffel (talk) 01:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I didn't count the original nomination; that was a mistake. But I still think this is a case of rampant deletionism and that there should be a statute of limitation.SPNic (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But there isn't a statue of limitations. This is only my third AfD nomination over a 2 year period btw. User:Hexachord, for example, nominates more in a week than I've done in my entire time here on wikipedia. So I don't know why this particular article is being single out when there have been far closer and less clear-cut results. No offence SPNic. A-Kartoffel (talk) 03:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overturn since there is reliable 3rd party coverage that was not yet worked into the article. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 03:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: 1) There was a clearcut consensus to delete 2) the AfD was on the album in question, not any song or artist 3) the sources used are not neutral and are thus not reliable. A-Kartoffel (talk) 04:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment interesting statement "WP:MUSIC says that albums by notable artists may be notable." isn't really a stunning revelation, something maybe notable. What WP:NALBUMS says is "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." which seems to be the primary reason for deletion. As to having been here for X, imposing a rule of such would be pretty much contrary to the project goals, to write a quality, free, npov encyclopedia. Why would we let stuff stay which is outside of that just because it's been here for too long? (And no I don't want to get into a debate about what quality means, I'll let our current content and inclusion guidelines define that.) --81.104.39.44 (talk) 08:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lord of This World (Black Sabbath Song)

AfD ended early, song has been covered by several notable artists [1] --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 01:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]