Talk:Pain and suffering in laboratory animals

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Cleanup

This article needs cleaning up - currently it consists almost entirely of material sourced from the animal testing article (some of which I've now deleted from that article) and derives mostly from a single source, and contains a lot of anecdote and speculation. --Coroebus 16:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV in current views

All material in the current views section is based on Carbone. It also seems to disagree with other wikipedia articles on the question at hand. A strong bias against animal testing is apparent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by O76923 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The burden of proof seems to be on those who say animals feel pain. But if pain is an evolutionary tool and a survival necessity . . . then of course anything with a nervous system feels pain. Quite a lot of pain. 76.105.157.77 (talk) 14:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Bentham

I remember from my training to work on lab animals the opposition of the Descartes quote with a quote by Jeremy Bentham: “The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they suffer?”. The course was very well structured and this quote very well expresses the modern attitude towards animal suffering. I think it should be worked in if this article is redone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.178.7.127 (talk) 14:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]