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Fg

BB08(do you mind if i call you that) how good are you in family guy. --Pedro J. the rookie 20:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free, and in what facet? I have seen many of the episodes but don't know too much about the production/behind-the-scenes aspect. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am in a let's call it proyect to boost up family guy to GA or FA, or at least the characters, and looks to me that your a good editor, and if i see what you have better then me, so i was wondering if you have free time, will you join me, i already have some expirience and if you have any dout tell me. are you abored. --Pedro J. the rookie 21:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry i can wait =D. --Pedro J. the rookie 21:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can take a look at them in a while. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:26, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

right thanks.--Pedro J. the rookie 21:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I want you to help me but family guy up for GA and later FA are you willing. --Pedro J. the rookie 01:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea. I think hulu in general doesn't work overseas because of copyrighting, but if you can find the same video else where, you should have no problem. Actually I am looking for that same info, so let me know if you find it. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 02:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I will probably help you. I don't make any guarantees, though. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 01:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help man, appriciate it. --Pedro J. the rookie 16:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is the this artical GA matirial Patriot Games (Family Guy) . --Pedro J. the rookie 18:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not really. It is rather short, the cultural references are not sourced, and there is not reception or reviews section. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BB08 can you see this video and tell me what it says it cannot be seen out of USA, which i am [1]. --Pedro J. the rookie 23:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, hulu has weird copyright laws. I did find another version of the video though [2]. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 02:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BB08, what would you think of putting a gallery with the voice actors images on family guy like on the simpsons. --Pedro J. the rookie 03:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am still against it. It probably should be contested there and knowing what the voice actors look like don't help with the readers understanding of the subject. I think with new review guidelines, it would never make FA or even GA with it. I have finished going through the article. I may try to find some more articles to expand a casting section and would like to add more about reception, but I probably won't be working so intently on it for a while. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 03:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, i see your point i'll see what i can do, and you take a deserved rest, you have done a great job. --Pedro J. the rookie 03:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I forgot i told some wikipedians to check out the page, and tell me what we could expand so i will keep you posted.--Pedro J. the rookie 04:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found the rest of the videos but it those not talk about the rest of the cast, it is more about the show. --Pedro J. the rookie 02:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have links, there may be more to them that we can add though. This is definitely some kind of interview for a TV show or something and I wish I knew more about it. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 02:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here:[3][4][5][6][7]. --Pedro J. the rookie 14:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think it has inof refrences or it needs some more. --Pedro J. the rookie 19:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think of it has having enough, think if everything that isn't obvious or is controversial is sourced, then you have "enough". BOVINEBOY2008 :) 00:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

should i put a crossover with AD, i have refernces. --Pedro J. the rookie 19:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is notable enough and even if it were, I don't know where I would put it. That is definitely something to put in episodes article but probably not the overview. Can you do one thing that is really bugging me - could you move periods and other punctuation marks in front of the refs? Instead of
"blah blah text blah blah<ref>cool link about family guy</ref>."
it should look like
"blah blah text blah blah.<ref>cool link about family guy</ref>"

CTJF83Talk 21:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

fg sources

regarding sources from tweets. They seem legit as long as the twitter account is authorized, and ive read over the sources page again and as long as its not about a living person or is the basis for an article a tweet seems like a valid source. In this case its only a date, and its confirmed by the creator and producer on their pages. What part of the resources section actually bans twitters for info that doesnt directly relate to a living person... Grande13 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you (or I) read WP:TWITTER correctly, you definitely can use twitter as a source. I really don't have a problem with it and you probably could use it again and I wouldn't say another word. Having said that, the guideline does state

if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so.

Since there was a question of the reliability of the source, I automatically expect a third-party source to back it up. I really think if you are going to use tweets as a resource and someone contests it, you should back it up with a third-party source. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 03:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Im sure it can be backed up eventually, but it was the first time the information has been available, and im sure it will be updated with more sources eventually, but if the correct information is out there and can be sourced with at least twitter, it can help prevent vandalism by users putting in rumors they hear or etc. Grande13 (talk) 12:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but just remember that there is no deadline. It may be worth waiting until a different source is available. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 12:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. I'll try to find as many sources as possible and i'll also keep it more vague as not to focus on that specific source at least for the time being until more info is releasedGrande13 (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Invite

WikiProject Family Guy Hello Bovineboy2008. You have been invited to join WikiProject Family Guy, a WikiProject dedicated to improving the Family Guy-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in, or edits relating to or within the scope of the project. If you would like to join or just help out a bit, please visit the project page, and add your name to the list of project members. You may also wish to add {{User WikiProject Family Guy}} to your userpage.

Welcome --Pedro J. the rookie 23:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Family Guy

As far as resources go, I don't really have any. TV is a lot harder to find resources for than film, because it's such a weekly thing and not as big a production. Most of my Smallville stuff comes from books that I buy that have all of the production info in them. Google News, Google Books, and Google Scholar will probably be your best search engines. I'd stay away from Google Web, because it's mostly unreliable sources there. Since I don't watch Family Guy, I cannot really say (beyond Google) where good resources would be. If you have a LexisNexis account then you should probably be able to find some good resources from print media that's online (if you don't, I know that Hunter Kahn (talk · contribs) does).

As far as suggestions for the article go. Here are some quick things I got just from scanning over it:
1) Go through and clean up the sibling pages. Family Guy: Live in Vegas probably doesn't meet the WP:GNG, and should really just be merged back into the main article into a well developed prose section. The same goes for Family Guy (pinball). There are probably others, but there are far too many mini-subsections on the page. There is probably a better way to organize them all so that the page doesn't look like a skeleton.
2) The lawsuit section could/should probably all be one collective section. I would scrap the sectionings. Clearly there isn't enough there to warrant a true section for each lawsuit, so I'd just drop the pseudo-sections and just let the paragraphs sit as they are (except bring that one sentence paragraph up to the one above it).
3) Speaking of, I would probably separate lawsuits and the writers' strike away from "reception and achievements", as neither fit that category.
4) The same goes for the "DVD" section. Personally, I would separate it by itself, rename it "Home video release" (as that's a bit more formal than "DVD") and include a table that lists the release of all the seasons in regions 1, 2, and 4 (for comprehensiveness). I would use the DVD prose info as the opening before the table.
5) If you can find the data, providing a table that lists the Nielsen Ratings for each of the seasons would be nice for the reception section. Just a thought.
6) "Settings" should probably be under "Production", given that it's sort of tied to the same process. They have to recreate those settings in the production of an episode. In addition, I don't know if you have access to those sources, but I'd check the info from them with regard to the "Setting" information. As I'm reading it, it reads like it's original research. The image appears to be using synthesis to support the idea that the show recreates specific landscapes. If so, then we cannot use any of it (whatever's not sourced).
7) Per the MOS on images, images that are left justified should not be directly under a section header. So, I would suggest either reordering the page so that the Production info is lower than the infobox (so that Seth can be moved to the right), or moving the image of Seth to another section. Personally, I'd put all in-universe stuff at the top, and get it out of the way (character list, storyline description, etc.).
That's basically it. Overall it looks good, it just needs some restructuring, IMO.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you much! BOVINEBOY2008 :) 11:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - Why did you remove the image of Providence and the similar animated skyline?--DAW0001 (talk) 05:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reason for it to be there. Proof that those are similar are not supported by references and thus constitutes as original research. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 14:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I read it again and the ref does call for it so I put the image back. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 14:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have I Gone Crazy?

This isn't me, right? I haven't stumbled into the Spanish Wikipedia or something, have I? -WarthogDemon 20:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I had tried to revert back to the English version. There must have been an edit conflict. Sorry for the confusion. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 20:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah okay. No prob, just makes the day more interesting. Cheers. :) -WarthogDemon 20:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FG 2

How much help are you providing to get Family Guy up to GA status? Pedro appears to be having lots of problems with grammar and spelling. CTJF83Talk 21:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I went through once copy-editing, spell checking, flushing out refs, etc. once but since then Pedro has added a lot. I am going to go through it this weekend again. I really don't have any articles to add anything, but am looking to expand the cast section to have more casting info and then adding some positive reception to balance the negative. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 22:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm not really wanting to take on that project right now, as I have a few other major ones going. Once you think it might be GA ready, I will gladly do a read over/copy edit before it is nominated. Pedro is just gonna need a lot of help, and I'm not willing to put effort into FG just yet. CTJF83Talk 04:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How is FG coming, i cleaned it up a bit, just wanted to know what you think about it. --Pedro J. the rookie 02:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Its coming along. There are actually too many sources for somethings so I am trying to go through and see which ones are the most reliable & verifiable. I am also working on the DVD release chart as I type. The content is getting better though. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 02:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is the page complete BB08, and if not what those it need. --Pedro J. the rookie 00:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I took some of the refrences too so i think it's fine with the refrences. --Pedro J. the rookie 15:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Re: List of SpongeBob episodes

Sure, I'll help out. I've been dealing with this guy for the past few days now. Mokoniki | talk 23:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. S/He doesn't seem to be harming anything, but most of the things s/he adds is either unnecessary detail or fan-made labeling (a big pet peeve of mine). He has brought it up here if you want to weigh in. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 00:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's a big pet peeve of mine as well. Mokoniki | talk 16:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
S/He doesn't seem to be getting it. S/He's still reverting the edits. Mokoniki | talk 20:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YgoFan90

Just to let you know, I've already filed a 3RR report on YgoFan90. So now there's 2 reports for the one user on WP:AN3. --Bill (talk|contribs) 21:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bill, I must have missed it. I removed mine and added my comment about him/her to your report. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. --Bill (talk|contribs) 22:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BB08, man is YgoF90 srtasing, i have reverted him, i talked with him how the hell are we going to calm him down i mean i got into a fight with another editor he dose not listen, we gotta solve this. --Pedro J. the rookie 21:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is really frustrating. S/He is a good-faith editor, but doesn't discuss anything and doesn't seem to want help from others. There has been a report filed. Usually after the block, the user calms down and will discuss things more. Just try to wait it out or try getting him/her to talk. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have been there, it is true he will probaly calm down later. --Pedro J. the rookie 22:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reverting YgoFan90's edit to the SpongeBob episodes list. I would have done it myself, but I've reverted enough edits on the article already. Mokoniki | talk 13:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. It's the last time I can really do it though. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 13:13, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


SpongeBob characters article problem

Apparantly, some anon user believes that Mrs. Puff was born in 2025. I don't want to get myself in another edit war, so I only reverted once, and decided to come to you about the problem. Can you help? Mokoniki | talk 00:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added it to my watchlist! BOVINEBOY2008 :) 01:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


The Parrot

Isn't his name Potty? That's what I always heard. Mokoniki | talk 00:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Help me please!

I think you can answer this, am I a bad editor? Just save me from the madness! (and see my reply for the FN vandalism - I'm not the first person to wanna vandalize that page anyway.) CDrive655 (talk) 23:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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