Talk:Benazir Bhutto

Has conclusive evidence been presented regarding the murder of Mir Murtaza, Benazir's brother? Many plausible incentives exist, but I hate to believe that Bhutto truly had a hand in her own brother's death.

Doesn't the following sentence:

first woman head of government in the Muslim world

need some qualification? Razia Sultan, anyone? Maybe saying adding a "in modern times" would help?--iFaqeer 02:06, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

How about "first woman to be elected as the head of government among Muslim-majority countries." Egalitus 20:19, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Oxford Pres

Wasn't she the first woman, period? No!!

And the first Asian?No------------Sirimavo Bandaranaike a Sri Lankan was!!!--Raju1 00:20, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think she was the first Muslim Women. She was also the first Asian women.

NPOV

Sections of this article are clearly not neutral (i.e. the comment that she didn't do anything positive for the country during her reign). I've tacked on an NPOV header, and I'm not really competent to try and fix this. Ambi 02:26, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you that particular line we can do without and is factually inaccurate.I have made some changes to this and added some other info.See if appropriate and if so remove the NPOV when you deem fit.--PrinceA 05:03, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think the article does not have any POV lines and that is why I removed the tag.But if you still feel that way lets hear it.--Sheikhu 00:06, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the tag, as the worst of the bias is gone. It still looks like it could do with more on her career as prime minister, though. Ambi 04:48, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I read the article it seems to me who ever wrote it thought it to be self explanatory (where as it is not).It does not provide information about her times as Prime Minister whereas she has held this office twice.Another thing ,the indecent comment she is the biggest randi (meaning:she is a whore)is not appropriate for anyone to make.It should be removed!!! What is the point of an encylopedia??? It is for sake of information and knowledge,reference ,it is helpful but ruining it this way takes the thrill and enjoyment of looking to gain info cuz once you read something like that you have second thoughts about the truth of the whole article,Know what I mean? Please understand as I wish for other editors to look into this and see what appropriate measures they can take to fix this (pitch in).Thanx--Raju1 00:38, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's called vandalism, Raju. The moment you see something like that, feel free to fix it. The open-ness of Wikipedia gives it the strength of all our combined knowledge, energy, etc. This is the price we pay for it--and I think it is not a high price to pay. :D

Thanks for writing to me on this.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 03:15, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with Ambi's claim that sections are not neutral —the sections are nonexistent. First section it, then NPOV is easier to deal with. Chronological sequence of events is nice, but with larger/growing articles it becomes necessary to split it along personal/professional lines. Sinreg-SV|t 03:38, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Some pro-Bhutto fanatic are infecting this page and are posting propaganda about this failed and corrupt woman. Wikipedia will not help Bhutto get elected so these fanatic should step polluting this page. . I dont want someone posting utter rubbish like "Bhutto enjoys the support of majority of Pakistanis". If she did have such support, Musharraf would be long gone by now. In fact the opposition's anti-government campaigns have been complete failures. The current article(Dec 20) is in horrible state and I am going to clean it up

I think that the events of April 16th this year, when Asif Zardari returned, is proff enough of the support Bhutto still recieves. The extent that the Punjab government to stop that event from banning train's and busses also in forcing an rule that banned the freedome of association and assembley. Yet there was still great amounts of people there, this was folloed by police brutality, which people in my university actully had to endur. Suggets there is still a mass of support for this women courrup or not. However as Musharaff has the power of stoping such events from happening and their deletion from the media means that it doesn't matter how much support one has he will remain. All hail Musharraf, may he continue his dictatorship for ever.

Someone has been vandalising this page by constantly changeing the 'Charges of corruption' section to portray the image that she is already convicte. Correct me if i am worng but I am quite sure there hasn't been a conviction. Wasn't the same tacticts used against here father. Wasn;t there cases against him which have been proved politicaly motivated and false today?

Ya, I think you'r right. Isn't is a bit odd thaat all these popular liberal leader Nawaz and Bhutto being the central figures, are always charged of corruuption and dissmissed.

Reply : If Sharif, Bhutto and Zardari were as popular or respected as you claim, Musharraf would be gone long ago. The military has not been used to put down any protest and the media are more free in his government that any other. It is the mass corruption and failure of the Bhutto and Sharif government which are the reason Pakistanis dont trust them. Its also the reason the anti-govt campaigns have been such miserable flops. There is no evidence at all to support your claim that Bhutto and Sharif are popular. Heck they are not even in the country! Both are fugitives from the law.

What law? The one that orderes people to rape women as punishment or the one that refueses to convict rapists?

I am sorry but Musharrah has used force to stop protestes, my father a journalist, was beaten by police on April 16th while covering a peacfull protest he refused to give up his notes. He tried to take it to court but as usual they leagal system did nothing.

Reply: Musharraf does not control every policeman in Pakistan. Regarding the law, there are defective laws in Pakistan, that does not discredit the entire legal system or excuse the crimes committed by the rulers.

Can't you all see how many people were killed in Benazirs' family....it was only because they were Sindhi and Musharraf or any other punjabi can't bear to see that Sindhi's will actually make something out of themselves in this freakin world!!! Thats why he's building KALA-BAHG-DAM, so Sindhis would die of thirst and hunger. They're crops wont grow if the dam is built because the Indus River flows through Sindh!

Reply: Zulfiqar Bhutto had many enemies and the PPP engaged in extra-judicial killings in Karachi. There is no dearth of people who would like to get even with the Bhutto clan. Regarding Kalabagh Dam, Bhutto supported it while she was in office. Your comments on Sindh is garbage.