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Clean up time, everything is still in the history. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yo, Thomster

sup, ian? look, im just wondering...what IS ur personal opinion of my...religious conversion? didnt u find my reasons justified, at least? u always seemed to favor christians more than...other ppl of other faiths. i mean, don't u get a little tired of christain preaching at all? i mean, at least admit satanism holds no little power here in america. There IS a difference between belief and fact. We BOTH know which side is eventually going to win. As i said b4. STUDY THE PATTERNS, YO. ty, :):):) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 21:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are only using Wikipedia as a social networking site, I am going to be blunt: I think that you converted to make you feel special without actually having to be special. There is something missing in your life but you may not want to face it so you claim to have power from worshipping what you haven't really read all that much about. You became interested in me because you believed that I was a crypto-satanist since I know about some subjects that Christians aren't actually forbidden to study (unless you ask a fundamentalist). This, combined with your assumption that Satanists have any need to defend Harry Potter (a book written by a Christian and using Christian symbols), and your proselytizing to me so much makes me feel the same way I do around most conservative members of the Southern Baptist Convention. I think it is hypocritical to talk about swaying people to freedom while saying I should convert to your views. I think it is hypocritical to talk about rising from the crowd while insinuating that the crowd is going to eventually become what you want me to become. If I was not on Wikipedia, I would have calmly explained my views without demanding acceptance (as I did on my userpage), but right after I would have have asked more about your religious views so that I could point out philosophical flaws (and don't expect I show members of the would-be Christian crowd any favors, I treat them the same way). My faith in Christ is unrelated to the behavior of the crowd, whatever religion the crowd plays at following. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Thomson. We are...very shocked by your response. The Satanist cause is not weak, Thomson. I think you really should consider your final decision with great care. We strongly urge you to think again, my friend. I shall provide basic evidence: See: [www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Kids.html] (it is an impressive site designed specifically to guide children and teenagers into abandoning your Christian God and seeking the devil's aid instead) and its partner site: [1], which has 2535 members currently, in vast contrast to the meager three dozen members of the Anti-Satanist group: [groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti-Satanism_Group/]. Is not even this small piece of evidence indication of how powerful Satanic worship has become? Please, Ian, I...we...are doing this for a very specific purpose, which soon, with luck, many, many societies and communities, lost and misguided as they are now, may realize. 'Faith in Christ', you say? Heh. Very well, Ian, we shall soon see how strong your faith in 'Christ' is, and at that moment, perhaps I will have no more need for continuing to speak with you thus. Your friend, :) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, of this 'crowd' you always seem to make mention of, we have acknowledged that the Christianity religion is indeed worthy of our notice. I have planned my strategems well, Ian, and I have been acting, Ian, to promote my own cause and to weaken the foundations of the force that I have sworn some time ago to oppose, no matter what the cost, and I will, I must succeed, even if I and others of my belief all perish in doing so. At least you can sympathize with the fact that it is for love, if nothing else, that drives me to do that which you possibly may support not. Even now, though we two have been parted, she (the female at the school I once attended years past) and I shall always remain as one in the heart, and it is with a passion that I affirm my conversion: I shall die for my cause, if I must, and I shall die before I foresake that which I now know to be right and true. Best wishes, Ian Thomson, :) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ian, know this: Never shall harm come to you, through words or otherwise, for you have done me a great favor in providing me with the list of Satanists on Wikipedia. I have tried to contact some of them, and I shall continue to do so, to further my aims. Thank you, Ian, for everything you have done for me. I swell with pride and gratitude at the honor of having known one as you. My thanks, and my best wishes, your friend, :) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 22:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to continue being blunt: I have seen the Joy of Satan ministries website before. It was created by a racist group that calls God (which is just a placeholder term for whatever created the universe) "Satan" (which originally was a title, anothe placeholder term for whatever happens to oppose whatever created the universe), it engages in revisionist history, and it thinks that other religions were created by telepathic aliens (Zacharia Sitchin, the fellow who they're ripping off, really didn't have any evidence that isn't more rationally explained by Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious). I have no need of them to become god-like: all humanity, including Semites (who Joy of Satan blame for the problems in the world[2][3]), are potentially little Gods. I don't need to join others to gain power. Being able to refuse to join a crowd is real power. It was not a Christian that did the inquisition, but a crowd playing at being Christian (just as the crowd could have played at being any religion or lack thereof). I never believed at any point that harm would come to me, and now I am sure of it because my previous thoughts have only been confirmed. I'll be praying for you. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, pray, Ian Thomson, and I, too, support prayer greatly. Yet my mission is to ensure that you pray to the one being I and many others pray to, instead of the one we hate most. I mean, according to Satanic belief, LUCIFER created Yahweh, not the other way around. Must I provide you with more evidence of Satanism's waxing strength? Long have I stroven to respect your own beliefs, as queer as I deemed some of them, yet it is my turn now to speak that which you may deem blunt: What evidence have you that it was Jehovah who created Lucifer? Hmm...any at all, Ian? Please, you must understand how hard it is for me to try to achieve my goals, even though I am now assured that I am on the winning team. Perhaps you should come to join me, and MY patron? Best wishes, your friend, :) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 01:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

YHWH and Lucifer are just names given to God. It is only because of misreading of one verse in Isaiah that Satan is refered to as Lucifer (otherwise, Biblically "Light Bearer" refers to the title a Babylonian king claimed for himself, and then to refer to a star or to Jesus). Satan as a light bearer or inspiring genius is a result of the literary Romantics taking Milton's Paradise Lost at face value instead of contemplating it. While Satanism is increasing, there are multiple growing religious minorities in the west, including Atheism, Wicca, Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism, that are more likely targets for the crowd to play at. If the crowd quits playing at being Christian and starts pretending to follow some other religion, that's only going to make things easier for me. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you DO think the prospect of worshipping Satan is appealing? Then, my friend, there IS much we may yet discuss...Speak on, Ian, speak on...for the time may be nigh...FOR THE FINAL EXTINCTION! Iotamikadoshi (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ian, seriously, if you're thinking of joining...then I will, let us say, speak far more with you. And that which must be done may be yet achieved. :) Best wishes, Iotamikadoshi (talk) 20:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ian, you mention on your User page that you believe your God saves everyone. I wish to cause no offence, but, um, what if some people...how should I put it, my friend...? Hmmm...DONT WANT TO BE 'SAVED'? What say you to that, Ian Thomson? Iotamikadoshi (talk) 23:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, I never said that Satan worship is appealing to me. What I said was Satan being viewed positively as an inspiring light bringer is the result of a misreading of one Bible verse and a single poem. I said that religious minorities other than Satanism are more likely to take over in the west. I said that if people quit playing at my religion, that's only going to make things easier for me to follow my religion. If people don't want to be saved, that's their problem. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Simonblaen"

You're totally right about it being an attack; it just wasn't as clear to me initially and I tend to err on the side of caution. Good call though. AlexHOUSE (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, he's gone, so that's all that matters. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

guyver

I'd like to ask why you undid another persons revision on the guyver page. your reason was that it required a source but the source this person was using is the manga; the source the article itself is based upon. it was not any type of 3rd party information that required any additional source. this seemed like a rather random "undo" to me and i would like to know why to avoid any misunderstanding in future.Drag-5 (talk) 17:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Judicial Shamanism

There is a difference between "do not modify" the existing text and "do not add a comment" So here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Judicial_Shamanism / I just added a comment without modifying the previous text. This is completely in accordance with the deletion policy.