User talk:Crispmuncher
RE: Oops
No problem, I know it was accidental =p. Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Your assistance is requested on this page. A user has rekindled an argument you had over a year ago but more sources are still needed. 87.112.2.151 (talk) 22:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Any specific suggestions?
Hi. The article on Universe Sandbox was my first article for Wiki. I agree it did read somewhat like an advertisement. I have tried very hard to correct that impression by removing some adjectives, some lines and adding some of its limitations. If you have any other specific recommendations so that you don't think it is like an advertisement, I would appreciate hearing them and would make the changes. I did closely try to follow what was done on articles for similar types of software. Now I am struggling to learn how to add some images and logo for this article and think that would be under fair use. Thank you. Galodw13 (talk) 16:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Scroll Saw
The connection between a sponsoring site (with banner adds and all) and the predominate focus of the site (forums, genernal info, free resources, and etc) should be considered when determining the appropriatness of an external link. In the case of http://www.scrollsawer.com, This site is a primary gathering location for a great many scroll saw hobbiest and professionals. Yes, there are banner adds (like there are on many many other sites liked within Wikipedia), but the focus of the site is strongly to the side of information and forums. Many many members do not subscribe or contribute to the sponsoring publisher in any way.
Other sites that would be "known" to anyone in the scrolling community would be Steve Goods site where he had video demonstrations on every aspect of the hobby. In scroll saw circles, he is a household name. Carole Rothman is the same for the segement of scrollsawer making bowls. She would be considered the definitive resourse for all things about bowl creation from the scroll saw. Her site does, again have banner adds for her book and such, but the focus of the site isn't commercial. The site name has blog in it, which will automacially flag those links.
From the lack of feedback and communication, I'm not sure whether just the www.scrollsawer.com link was the only thing objectionable, or also the manufacturuing links, pattern links, and whatever.
The talk page for the aricle has nothing concerning the reverts or the question over relevancy of the edits. My comments have been added to that section now.
Gloden (talk) 19:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
It is interesting that you added the three revert role to my page, after I stopped reverting, and after I explained, assuming you read it, what I thought was happening. And I might remind you, in the same guidelines of conduct, issues with edits should be discussed with the third party, right, or did I read that wrong. you stated yourself that I was new, and obviosly hadn't go the hang of things yet, but you instead of engaging in any conversation, you go to "ban" mode? Is that in the spirit of how things are supposed to be conducted here. I think you are breaking some rules of your own.
And you violated the priciple of politeness, as I was trying to figure out what was going on with my edits, the bots, and you, I kindly suggested you not revert, and was given a "smart remark" (we will quit reverting when you . . . . ) I was trying to do right, and I get attitude and disrespect with no attempt to reach out and determine what was going on?
You have a history of other reverts on the scroll saw forum going back and I am looking at the nature of those edit as well as they seem to show a trend of edititing that has been counter productive to fuller and more complete content within the article. Since you seem to be hoovering over this topic, it seems like your are trying to "own" the content. I could be wrong, it will take some time to see if there is a trend that reflects this intent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloden (talk • contribs) 05:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, crispmuchner, you did not go the 3R rule until after the reverts had changed, and if you take a few minutes to look, the last revert/edit was to restore content minus the link that you mentioned in the admin page. The last revert was in spite of that edit. So yes, coming back after I engaged the admin page and started the talk page does indicate a vengencful response or you would have done that prior. That is indisputable or perhaps you have another reason for engaging after the fact. On the talk page, instead of focusing on the legality of the issue being brought up, you go back in to repremand mode. That is not appropriate by any stretch of the imagination, period. Your actions and communications are in doubt and you should be held to the same level of behavior as everyone else. I didn't cast myself as the victim, that is your judgement of me and my motives.
Regardless of the details of this immediate incident, you have also been involved in the fretwork article (a related craft) as a core content submitter, which indicates you have more than a passive interest in the topic matter. If you are making these kinds of judgement on topics you have had a history in submitting content, then there might be a deeper problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloden (talk • contribs) 15:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC) What you considered a meaning conversation said nothing about your concerns or even the specific link that was the source of your complaint in the admin page, so why would you say that constituded aything more that an boilerplate response? Since there are no specifics, like a bot response. That does not constitute a meaninful conversation, and you submitted that on the 20th by the way, most reverts back and forth changes and etc happed on the 19th, so, no, you did not engage in any meaningful conversation during the time of those reverts, nor was there any specific mention of the www.scrollsawer.com link nor any mention of their connection with the related publishing company.
(Within the talkback section that is)Gloden (talk) 16:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Gloden (talk) 16:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)