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I corrected inaccurate statement, which mentioned a border of Karabakh with Azerbaijan, while the region is actually a part of Azerbaijan. Grandmaster (talk) 07:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalizm by de facto Republic supporters

It should be clear that there is not "Nagorno Karabakh Republic" recognized by the United Nations. --Quzeyli 20:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

It is not recognized but yet it exists. Although to leave it "Nagorno-Karabakh", as it is more neutral, and to leave out of this article the disputed status of this entity. Furthermore this monastery is certainly not part of the Azerbaijani culture. Please avoid to add such controversal statements. --Vacio (talk) 05:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The UN and other transnational organizations have also decreed the right for self-determination. The status of Nagorno-Karabakh is disputed and it will be solved by virtue of NK peoples expression of will whether or not within the borders of Azerbaijan. But that's not the point here. The status issue of NK is discussed in that article, in separate articles we'll better avoid to start every time the same dispute. Let's mention that it lies in NK in a neutral way that satisfies both everyone, and let's indicate it's place in NK, that would be enough I think. Also please stop adding an Azerbaijani name of the monastery, it is certainly not an Azerbaijani monastery, as it does not represent the Azerbaijani culture. --Vacio (talk) 06:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is `self-determination` issue that defines the status of some regions by its people. However, it cannot be applied to Nagorno-Karabakh without participation of Azerbaijan Turks and Kurds have driven from there by Armenian separatist armed forces. So, formally Nagorno-Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan and everything on it represent Culture of Azerbaijan. Because, Azerbaijan is not mono-ethnic country and its culture is synthesis of all nations who are called "Azerbaijanians"! Therefore these monasteries are the peace of Azerbaijan history. --Quzeyli 19:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, most of the monasteries in Caucasus does not belong to Armenians, they are Albanians and Albanian crosses on the walls of these monasteries were vandalized and converted to Armenian crosses. I am studying on it and you will see its proofs soon on that page! --Quzeyli 13:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

I reverted: there is no legal entity called "Mardakert district" in Azerbaijan. Stop introducing false information in the article. Sardur (talk) 21:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right! Azerbaijan is divided into 59 rayons (rayonlar, singular rayon), 11 city districts (şəhərlər, singular şəhər). Mardakert is rayon, not district. --Quzeyli 13:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

There's no "Mardakert rayon" in Azerbaijan, see Administrative divisions of Azerbaijan. Sardur (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I used wrongly its de facto Armenian name. It is Agdara Rayon. --Quzeyli 13:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you're still telling inaccuracies: there's neither "Mardakert rayon" in NKR. Sardur (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback. "Mardakert" is the Agdara`s de facto Armenian name. --144.122.135.88 (talk) 14:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI Semi protected 1 week

I have protected this article for one week due to excessive edit warring over a content dispute. Please use the {{edit protected}} template to request changes. SGGH ^ping! 11:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda and revert

Same kind of post as on Amaras monastery talk page:
The external link which has again been added to the article has absolutely no place here, as it is completely of a propagandistic and unreliable nature.
On top of this, we have a new revert here by Quzeyli, who just didn't care about the preceding section. A new proof, if needed, of a disruptive behaviour from that user.
And still the same inaccuracy about a so-called "Nagorno-Karabakh region". Sardur (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody should know that place is in borders of Azerbaijan. `NKR` is unofficial separatist administration which has not legal value. Stop wrong national propaganda on Wikipedia! First, respect to the areal integrity of Azerbaijan. Otherwise, I can also call some part of Armenia as "West Azerbaijan"... Lets, respect each other on Wikipedia regulations... --Quzeyli 15:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

And once again no answer relating to inaccuracies and external link. That's enough. Sardur (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're not respecting WP rules, and you keep on avoiding to address the issues raised by your blind reverts. Sardur (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unofficial Country

Acoording to the map created by United Nations, Nagorno Karabakh region is a part of Azerbaijan. Please, stop unhealthy nationalism and letting misinformation! --144.122.135.88 (talk) 20:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious: could you just tell me how to access the site once you're in Azerbaijan? Sardur (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Artsakh (Karabakh) has never been a part of Caucasian Albania (what is now Azerbaijan). It has always been Armenian, and it was only passed under Azerbaijan by Stalin. Shushi also has always been Armenian, and only because of a massacre in the early 20th century did it gain some Turkish elements. But today, again, Artsakh belongs to Armenians, as it has since antiquity. So what are you talking about that the NKR is in Azerbaijan? It was NEVER a part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, it's been controlled, governed, and owned by Armenians. Azerbaijan (as Caucasian Albania) is only EAST of the Kura River. Anything WEST of the Kura (and certainly the mountains) are Armenia. Serouj (talk) 04:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please, don`t talk me about Armenian `illusions` that just accepted by just Armenia and `proved` after doing vandalism on historical monuments of Caucasian Albanians as you do here. --144.122.135.88 (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

`The Armenian resettlement to Karabakh monument` devoted to the 150th anniversary of the settlement of armenians from Maraga to Karabagh shows the real history of Armenians in Karabagh. Later, Armenians exploded this pedestal in order to approach to their `illusions`. --Quzeyli 05:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

What can I say? Study history to find out that Caucasian Albania has always been EAST of the Kura River! Cheers mate! Serouj (talk) 06:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll repeat my unanswered question: could you just tell me how to access the site once you're in Azerbaijan? Sardur (talk) 10:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is a blocked region controlling by illegal forces. Therefore, we can access there just by using military forces. --144.122.135.88 (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So what are you doing at the Middle East Technical University in Ankara? Serouj (talk) 21:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allahııım! Next time, before moving anywhere, I will ask your permission. --144.122.135.88 (talk) 22:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]