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Kielce Pogrom

The remark about Soviets not having an interest in "anti-semitic" actions is not accurate. As a scholar recent said, the Soviets were "masters of duplicity" and had not interest in preserving, enhancing or furthering the Jewish cause in post-war Poland, a fact that became ever so clear in 1968. To display this statement would totally ignore a lot of research that has shown that while not totally verifiable, there is at least doubt regarding the role of the Soviets in Kielce and other anti-Jewish occurrances throughout the Soviet sphere of influence at the time. The remark I deleted, especially its tone, seems to discredit these scholars totally, and this forum is to present fact not opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piast (talkcontribs)

Hi Piast, and welcome again. I am glad you explained your action since many people don't do even that. Please make use of article's talk for the article's related matters. Much of this was already discussed. Also, sign your messages with ~~~~ as explained in the greeting above.

Jan Dzierzon

Imie i nazwisko Dzierzona zostalo zmieniona na Johann Dzierzon, to jest pisownia niemiecka. Britanica podaje Jan Dzierżoń (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/175400/Jan-Dzierzon) i tak powinno byc. Rowniez tu (http://bees.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=bees;idno=5017629) angielskie tlumaczenie pracy Dzierzona podaje Dzierżon, Jan. Czy skontaktowales sie z museum w Kluczborku, albo przeczytales dowody i fotokopie w podanych pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka? Pomijanie zrodel polskich jest niedopuszczalne. Ci ktorzy chca zmieniac artykul powinni uznac wage zrodel polskich wage a nie lawirowac na drugorzednych przekladach i niepelnych zrodlach. Podane tez sa wspolczesne artykuly w prasie polskiej i napisane przez Polakow. Trzeba je wniesc do tekstu. Niech chociaz bedzie widoczne ze spoleczenstwo polskie ma silne zdanie na ten temat. Podaje Ci e-mail jezeli chcesz powaznie pracowac bez udzialu szpiegow: erudra@hotmail.com. --Soujdspo (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)



Bierz zawsze pod uwage ze: 1) w okresie Bismarck'a zniemczano imiona celowo 2) Poszukiwania liczbowe zapisu imion na internecie sa falszywka - autorzy wtedy i dzisiaj powtarzaja to co zostalo zniemczone i wprowadzone w pismie, clowo, przez nieuwage lub niewiedze. Jedyna droga czy jego imie powinno byc pisane Jahann czy Jan jest stwierdzenie ze Dzierzon uwazal sie za Polaka i kultywowal polskos, i tak jest zgodnie z dokumentami opisanymi w pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka etc. --Soujdspo (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC) --Soujdspo (talk) 02:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That said, I will restore the passage you blanked. Deletions should not be taken lightly, this passage was discussed and in the end of the day, it was left in. This is a very sensitive and controversial topic and the Be bold! guideline specifically mentions the need to be extra careful when dealing with such things. In no way I want to discourage you from contributing. Please hang around, use talk pages and contribute to WP. Regards, --Irpen 21:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Copernicus

Hi, even if the Polish language claims are just as valid as the German ones, as you say, wouldn't it be much more in the Wikipedia spirit to include some material supporting that contention instead of fully reverting the whole language paragraph along with a dozen other, unrelated changes I have made? Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 00:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I included references to major books that support the contention, including links to the exact pages of the sources that state these assertions. I made sure that these sources were English so that all could read and verify, and I made sure to include authors that weren't just from Poland or Germany. Your reaction to my changes was a bit surprising. When I found this article it seemed quite tilted towards implying that NC was fully German, and I only endeavored to rebalance it a little bit by inserting clear omissions. I stayed away from inflammatory and selective ideas like quoting specific historical figures although I have a trove of them at hand from the past five centuries. However, it seems to have touched something in you as your changes were very overt in their intention, meaning subverting my ideas and then adding on new claims that you knew would be highly inflammatory for your colleagues working on this entry. I do not want to play games of reversion, I simply thought the article needed a bit more fairness to the Polish side. --Piast (talk) 00:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copernicus citations

In some edits, for example this one, you have a citation with a number followed by "pp." Is that your way of indicating a page number? Or do you mean that the source has that total number of pages? In the citation systems used in English Wikipedia, a single page number is indicated by "p." followed by a space (or even better, a non-breaking space, which is entered with the HTML code  ) and then the page number. Multiple pages or a range of pages is indicated by "pp." followed by a space (or non-breaking space) and then the page numbers. We do not include a source's total number of pages in a citation. You might what to take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for more information. Could you please fix the citations where the "pp." follows the number? Thanks very much. —Finell 06:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that - should be cleaned up now. --Piast (talk) 10:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]