Talk:PlanetSide (video game)

links

let's leave outfit links off of this, also, the Sturmgrenadier entry is WAY non-npov.--Txredcoat 00:04, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I believe you're correct. The writing style is definitively not similar to the rest of WP, though I don't think (especially in light of the recent addition of a paragraph about a splinter group from SG - Sunder) that it's written in a "pro-Sturmgrenadier" style. Of course, if someone wants to edit it into more WP-style, that would be marvelous. I think Chrono and I are a little too close to topic to do so even-handedly. If there were many such articles, I would suggest a link to the SG one, but I don't know of any others. I do think that some discussion of outfits should be included on this page, even if no examples are given. --Habap 17:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vehicle Descriptions

Well I've gone ahead and incorporated all the data from the Planetside Tanks and also added all of the other vehicles and such. Do you all think that is too much data or? --Eirek 24:39 11/09/05

I think the vehicle specs are a bit much for a simple encyclopedia article. Anyone who plays the game will already know where to find that information and anyone with a casual interest won't care at all. I think the text descriptions should suffice. You can call me Al 13:15, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I've gone ahead and updated the vehicles with just the descriptions. Also there is one flight variant and the BFR's that I didn't have descriptions for if someone can put those in(The flight variant doesn't even have a name up there atm.) Eirek 14:15 11/9/05

I added descriptions for the Fury and the Skyguard, i'll get to the BFR's in a bit. ChronoSphere 05:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Subscription fee??

Isnt there a subscription fee for this game (seeing as its online I thought it might have one) if there is, is it listed on the page? and if it isnt listed shouldnt it be?

There is a subscription fee, but is it worth mentioning? MMOs pretty much by their definition charge a few. There are only a few exceptions. Aeverett 19:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Warning READ THIS!!

Ok someone deleted all the talk for no reason (and added his a own vulgar phrase I might add). I found the previous version of this discussion page and copied it here. From User:Psi edit

Politics

The "Politics" section, recently added, seems rather like original research to me. I'm active in the game and the forums, so I don't think it's inaccurate. I would just like to see some neutral third-party cites for that section. Al 14:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...and with no third-party attribution, I've removed that section as original research. I am including it here if anyone thinks any of it is salvageable. You can call me Al 16:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Within the game, there is a great deal of casual discussion as to which sides are ostensibly good and which ones are bad. Some claim the Republic are intended to be the villains, due to their theoretical similarity to Fascism, although it may be argued that neither the Republic nor Fascism necessarily are evil, given that both feel they are doing the right thing on the whole, and that it is their duty to protect the people from their own incompetence. These same people largely tend to claim the New Conglomerate as the heroes, although this is also contestable, as the Conglomerate are also rabidly anti-everyone and they see no room for other beliefs aside from their own, and also because of the fact that, living in a Liberal Democracy, one might be pre-inclined to see the idea of liberty as paramount to other concerns anyway (this may explain the large number of NC players, as most PlanetSide subscribers live in the United States). Often it is a common claim that the Vanu are at least partial villains, due to their embrace of many technologies today seen as immoral, and their intentions to replace human beings with machines. This also may be contested on the grounds that morality judgments on issues of technology are largely relative to public understanding of that technology, and that currently, public understanding of such things as cloning, genetic engineering, nanotechnology and cybernetics is very much limited to the contents of the latest science fiction film. Ultimately, it may be argued that all sides make valid points in one form or another, however they are all too fanatical and one-sided in their beliefs to be taken seriously as points of political debate.
For example, the Republic makes a good point in acknowledging that most people, most of the time are pretty generally not as qualified to decide important issues of policy as well-educated, well-informed professional policy makers are, but they go on to overstretch this truism and use it as justification for a system which concentrates all decision making power into a handful of over-educated individuals who only know the world of books and rarely get to experience the direct consequences of their own decisions, and ignore the latter fact. By contrast, the New Conglomerate make a good point in that individual experience often suffices in matters of individual decision making, and that knowing ones own situation is generally a sufficient prerequisite to making healthy choices for ones self. It is, however, often ignored that what is good for one person's well-being is rarely good for the well-being of society, and allowing people to do what they want, when they want to often leads to autocracies and/or oligarchies in which the needs of the majority are subservient to the needs of the minority, and being brought up, the favoured theories are often hastily defended with claims such as that freedom is not truly freedom unless it is a total liberty. Finally, though the Vanu Sovereignty make many valid points about technology and the fact that man's greatest capacity has always been his ability to make his knowledge work for him through feats of engineered efficiency, they then leap head-first into the premature conclusion that the knowledge of how to re-engineer human beings into superior life forms is in fact the justification to do so on the sole basis that the new species will be, admittedly, far more efficient. In doing so, the fact is often neglected that many people would elect to remain simple humans and in fact, in game terms, this expresses itself in that a major war has already broken out on the basis that advanced, alien technology has destabilized a society and polarized the population largely in accordance to the distinction of those who have access to and make full use of said technology, and those who do not and would not in any case, respectively.
Naturally, it is simple to see why the debate continues, as it touches on many real and politically sensitive issues currently being discussed in world politics, and quite accurately so.

Outfit links

It is inappropriate to add Outfit links to this article. So, let's keep them out, shall we? You can call me Al 16:39, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I just removed another outfit link for Azure Twilight from the article. ChronoSphere 06:27, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

They're adding links again. Anyway to prevent this, or just keep an eye and remove outfit links when they occur? ChronoSphere 18:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose contacting their Outfit Leader might get them to stop. I used to even know who it was. I'll see if I can reach out to them. Reverting is always a tool here, and if a particular IP address persists we can work to have it banned. (Or whatever the appropriate policy is around here. We certainly aren't the only article with such a problem.) You can call me Al 18:49, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I posted on their forums and asked them to stop. Someone replied that they would. You can call me Al 13:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

banned players

Al, have you come across this while updating wikipedia w/ information? If a developer comes across this, I need a favor. This is alicairo & I am banned. Please, I'm tired of playing alts. Guys, I been hardcore since the start & I could use some assistance coming back. Additional | I've had some brilliant ideas that have been incorporated into the game. I put some of my implant, cert, & ability ideas in back when the thread about game development was open. Under another name of course as I was banned at the time. -alicairo420 4:34, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)

This isn't really an appropriate or effective way of trying to get in touch with the development team. You'll want to go through the contact information on http://planetside.station.sony.com anyway. Not only that, but as far as I know none of the devs frequent this talk page and, to be frank, they have little to no input on player bans; that's the customer service department. You can call me Al 02:01, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I can not do anymore. Customer service has a vendetta against me. I used my in game abilities & was stripped of my abilities for it. All I did was global a troop allocation order. I've been playing since june 03 & what I was doing would of only transfered a small population. The place I was transfering the troops from, was already won. It was a preliminary move that benefited the Vanu of Emerald. I watched from my other account & things turned out as I suspected. Customer service did not recognize this & Dan B over reacted. So I sent a /tell about it & Dan B silenced me without a comment. So I did an /appeal & Dan B banned me because I broke my silence. After which I wrote PS about it & they refused to respond. This is an over reaction by customer service & in my opinion abuse of a player. The developers know me, even if they act as if they do not. To tell me I should contact customer support when it's known I am being ignored is more acting. Discussion is discussion on wikipedia. This is an open source for all information in regards to all entries. I have merely informed anyone who cares to look that I was banned for unjust reasons. If this game wasn't controlled in the manor that it is, a long term player like myself would not see such abuse. Ask around, I had friends of friends contact certain developers to see what they could do. No one wanted to take the challenge of Dan B & were content to run around in their groups, ali free. I've been right about users using SPEEDERXP for over two years. I have reported more exploiters & found more bugs as any one person not involved in game development could. I recognize your point, however, I need this assistance. I do not want to have to go further, even if I could. -alicairo420

I've been playing online games since online games were first available. I played the first muds, muxes, mushes, muses, & even BBS games before practically everyone was on the net. Throughout the history of online games, it is shown, developers & admin actually playing the game, is what corrupts & ultimately destroys a game. It may be these admins are good enough to not cheat, despite their ability, & perhaps want, however, that doesn't seem likely. It just doesn't happen. What they do is just more secretive. -alicairo420

Vehicles, what about weapons and armor, especially MAXes

I've cleaned up the Vehicles section. I think it's far too long and should be trimmed. This isn't an ad for the game, after all.

We have a section for vehicles, but none for weapons or armor, two other things that make this game distinctive. We need to add those, but I hesitate to use the vehicles section as a model per my comments above.

You can call me Al 16:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended System Specifications

In simply removing (rather than editing) pervious comments regarding recommended system specifications, Wrathchild-K has removed accurate information about appropriate recommended system requirements, and replace it with the old misleading information.

Rather than get into a tedious debate about it, users may wish to note that more useful system specifications should be considered as:

AMD XP 3200 / Intel P4 3.2 Ghz or better (especially important if you enable maximum resolution textures)
1 GB RAM (this is 2 GB for maximum resolution textures)
128 MB VRAM or more (this is 256 MB minimum for maximum resolution textures)
High-Speed Internet Connection

As was updated, the game uses in the region of 750+ MB while fully loaded (note that it loads progessively, on-demand), rather than in the region of 450+ MB as stated (making the minimum 2 GB, rather than 1.5 GB for reasons explained originally).

While this may seem a small issue, a lack of appreciation for actual technical requirements has been the source of consistant misunderstandings of 'stuttering' problems over the last two years in the Technical Support forum on the offical site (this is something users are extremely sensitive to, not least given it's FPS nature and that swapping to disk mid-battle is never fun).

I'd caution that anyone who tries to actually play the game with any the higher detail options turned on is in for a nasty surprise if they go by what's currently there (RAM and VRAM requirements aside, an older '2.0 Ghz' Intel CPU, for example is nowhere near sufficent for decent gameplay with a reasonably busy screen).