Talk:Battle of Lechfeld

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Numbers

These numbers of soldiers are vastly exagerated. There were no more than 3500-4000 men in Otto's army and 6-8000 Magyars. (The whole Hungarian Tribal Feredation was unable to field 50 000 men, and this campaign was only a simple financial enterprise of some chief.)

Combatants

I changed "Holy Roman Empire" to "East Francia", as the HRE did not exist in that form yet. Otto was crowned Emperor in 962, a decade after this battle. At the time of the battle, the region that became the HRE was known as the Kingdom of East Francia or the Kingdom of the Germans. -Alex, 74.133.188.197 03:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

What sources is this article using for the numbers and the casulties? For example The Seventy Great Battles of All Time (edited by Jeremy Black) gives the Hungarian strength at circa 25 000. --88.114.235.214 18:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are 2 versions to this Battle of Lechfeld

Sorry, but I had to delete this BS!

Pretty much all of that was debunked long ago. The rest is nationalistic wishful thinking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.121.15 (talk) 02:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

removed URL in sources

I removed the following URL from the sources on the main page - it points to a password-protected section about Widukind's account

Widukind

(Florian Marquardt) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.147.59.12 (talk) 09:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Horses

I am skeptical about this line:

"The Magyars rode faster horses than the more heavily encumbered German knights and had a speed advantage in a normal situation."

My understanding is that while the Magyars had greater strategic mobility due to their extra horses and self-sufficiency, and greater long term endurance, the European warhorses were bred for strength and speed, while the steppe ponies were not. In a short sprint or charge the knights are faster I think. AThousandYoung (talk) 22:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The steppe type warfare used special horses, called "hucul" which looked ponies, as the legs are relatively shorter, but were not ponies at all, and the horses were able to move more flexible than the heavy armored ones. The war is not always about sprints. Also, the Hungarian army was strong on shooting during running full speed, swinging the arrow backwards. Try to do it, it is extremely difficult... Abdulka (talk) 12:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

German "Von's" in the 10th century?

Is there any source for the "von Hoehne"-family as participants of this battle? I never heard of anything like this and find it rather strange (maybe a spinn-off of some dubious family history?). You won't find anything about this on the German Wikipedia pages either under 'Lechfeld' or under 'Saxon(tribe)'. Therefore I would recommend to delete this passage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.128.10.65 (talk) 13:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]