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Notability

Broden needs a WIKI page given that he is the challenger for a congressional seat. This is especially true with all the news articles about the incumbent. I just don't know how to use HTML so I thought the community could fix this.

Can you explain how the subject meets WP:POLITICIAN or another notability guideline? VQuakr (talk) 03:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From the WP:Politician guideline

  1. Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.[7] Generally speaking, mayors are likely to meet this criterion, as are members of the main citywide government or council of a major metropolitan city.
  2. Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article."

If you look on Google, he has received significant press coverage, and has received even more coverage since the incumbent has been in a scandal involving scholarship dollars. See http://www.google.com/search?q=stephen+broden&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=stephen%20broden&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn&fp=70bfc538efc94ade —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwleu (talk • contribs) 04:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Broden has also been featured numerous times on national news - FOX News Channel. http://www.google.com/search?q=broad+conception&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Ens&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=stephen+broden+fox+news&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=8f5a46f34d07f133 --Michiejm (talk) 05:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough; I removed the notability tag. VQuakr (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! We are still trying to make it not seem like an advertisement. I could do it more easily if I knew more about html. --Michiejm (talk) 16:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mind me asking, who is "we"? VQuakr (talk) 17:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I have nominated this article for POV verification; at a glance it still appears too biased in favor of the topic. In particular, the non-primary sources appear to be from conservative publications that themselves likely carry POV issues. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 04:13, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I toned down some of the sentences. Could you let me know which of the citations need to be replaced? When the assertion is that Broden co-founded an organization or graduated from a college, I would think that any objectively verifiable site is sufficient. I see your point if the citation goes to something more qualitative. (JWLEU)

This was not a conservative publication that I referenced when discussing his press release regarding Eddie Bernice Johnson. It was the Dallas Morning News. The only info I included was that he released a press release and then what the press released pertained to. I don't see how that is not neutral, as it pertains to his political life. (Michiejm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michiejm (talk • contribs) 19:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It pertains to his opponent's political life, not Broden's. Putting it in the article on Broden risks making the page look like a campaign spiel rather than an encyclopedia entry. VQuakr (talk) 17:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, linking to conservative websites to reference his biography to me is not biased. These websites are where most of his biography appear at this point. I am only linking to them to reference unbiased facts about his education, political history, and work background, which is what his Wiki page consists of. (Michiejm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michiejm (talk • contribs) 19:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

VQuakr - thank you by the way for making his picture into an info box. I was not sure how to do that. I was lucky enough to be able to figure out how to insert a picture. So, thanks, that is appreciated! (Michiejm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michiejm (talk • contribs) 19:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am attempting to find a new article that references him being a commentator for FOX News and Glenn Beck, instead of linking to videos as proof (which is all I could find earlier). I suppose I could link again to just a bio I've already linked to, if you'd prefer. I was only trying to use new sources. Is this one of the references you think is blatantly biased? --Michiejm (talk) 20:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure which bio you are talking about. In general, self published material is not a useful reference, unless written by Broden (then it is a primary source). Material published by a political action committee (or similar organization) should be used with caution, since it is likely to contain a bias. Fox News has a pretty widely accepted conservative viewpoint, but it is usually viewed as reliable though I think it would be better for the article if the source news organizations were diversified. Regards! VQuakr (talk) 17:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

VQuakr: Please let me know which citations need to be changed/what you find objectionable. I'd like to get the neutrality tag removed ASAP. Jwleu

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