Talk:Naraka (Buddhism)

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Judaism?

"A Naraka differs from the hells of Abrahamic religions in two respects. First, beings are not sent to Naraka as the result of a divine judgment and punishment; second, the length of a being's stay in a Naraka is not eternal, though it is usually very long."

Judaism does not have a specific doctrine about the afterlife, but it does have a mystical/Orthodox tradition of describing Gehenna. Gehenna is not Hell, but rather a sort of Purgatory where one is judged based on his or her life's deeds, or rather, where one becomes fully aware of one's own shortcomings and negative actions during one's life. The Kabbalah explains it as a "waiting room" (commonly translated as an "entry way") for all souls (not just the wicked). The overwhelming majority of rabbinic thought maintains that people are not in Gehenna forever; the longest that one can be there is said to be 12 months, however there has been the occasional noted exception. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.242.102.189 (talk) 15:29, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jainism?

I don't understand why this article is being asked to double as an article about the Jain concept of Naraka, which, I am sure, differs from the Buddhist concept in both details and in general cosmological principles. There is plenty of room for an article on Naraka (Jainism) if someone can be found who's qualified to write it. RandomCritic 17:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Emphasize the 'very'

I really think we should emphasize the length of the suffering, with the word very at least twice "...the length of suffering is very very long." -Unsigned

Not true

"First, beings are not sent to Naraka as the result of a divine judgment and punishment" Most Buddhist sects that actually give a shit about the Chinese-derived concept of Narakas do believe that beings are sent there as the result of divine judgment. Namely, the judgment of Lord Yama. Not to mention that the concept of karma itself is a form of divine judgment. --75.49.222.55 18:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The concept is not "Chinese-derived". The characterization of karma as "a form of divine judgment" is highly dubious. RandomCritic 18:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's a Hindu presenting a Hindu view of a Buddhist concept. I advise that we just ignore him. Armyrifle (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Folk religion grafted onto Buddhism?

Were these hells actually part of Buddhism from the beginning? I'm beginning to suspect that these were folk beliefs that were pasted onto Buddhist dharma. If they were, can we include that in the article? Can we also include how many contemporary Buddhists (don't) believe in Naraka? Of all the Buddhists I run into (mostly Anglophone Buddhists), I find very few who actually think that bad people are punished in grotesque ways from 1,620,000,000,000 to 3,397,386,240,000,000,000 years. Lothar76 (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The evidence indicates that is not the case. References to the hells are common in what are considered the very oldest sutras, and indeed the concept of different realms (including the hells) is a fundamental aspect of Buddhism and has been from the start. We could include something about westerners choosing to disbelieve this point of doctrine if we can find citable sources for that assertion. Sylvain1972 17:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Does that not seem a bit extreme? The entirety of Avīci is more than a sixth the age of Earth squared! Why would anyone need to suffer that long? -juunannio 19:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juunannio (talk • contribs)

Template appearance

Currently a templace box on the right side is not working with the rest of the article, it is creating a giant expanse of white space, is there a way to wrap this in correctly? Tyciol (talk) 14:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what is meant by:

"In these texts, Naraka became an integral part of the otherworldly bureaucracy which mirrored the Imperial Chinese administration."?

Esteban Barahona alias Samael Cero ^_^_^ (talk) 15:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]