Talk:Intel vPro

Security and Intel vPro PCs

I've added some vPro critical info to the "Security and Intel vPro PCs" section, as I have seen no vPro security criticism's in this article which is written like an advertisement from Intel as other's have noted. Please expand this information, also it is an interesting article that is linked.

Here is the text I added:

"However this article: "Big Brother potentially exists right now in our PCs, compliments of Intel's vPro" http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39455/128/ raises many potential security concerns for PC's with vPro. The fact that there is apparently no way to disable vPro on a PC along with the fact that most users cannot detect outside access to their PC via the vPro hardware based technology is a serious concern."

The section raising security concerns regarding Intel vPro was removed by an IP registered to Intel (Oct 5th 2009 edit by IP 192.55.54.39) The usertalk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:192.55.54.39 says: "This IP address, 192.55.54.39, is registered to Intel Corporation; United States; Santa Clara" I am reverting the article to include the security concerns about Intel vPro by the www.tgdaily.com article, as this article still reads like an advertisment from Intel and these are significant security concerns.

The section on vPro security concerns was removed again by the same Intel IP address on Dec 16, 2009, I am re-adding the security concerns section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.77.192 (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How Does This Work?

How can it be accessed and re-configured if it's power is off? Wouldn't that necessitate an internal power supply? 68.192.204.19 (talk) 21:38, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even when the computer is off (but does have power from the wall, what we call "soft-off") the power supply does supply tiny amount of power through special connectors to the motherboard. This standby power allows the computer to boot up to begin with (the power button is a 5v signal switch, not a thick 115/230V power switch) and allows things like wake-on-lan. The same "standby power" (don't confuse it with what Windows calls "standby") is used to power the intel vPro components. 130.89.160.64 (talk) 19:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

vPro Features and Processors

AFAIK vPro only specifies firmware features (such as remote management and virtualization) and not a specific chip (such as Core 2 Duo) although it does require certain processor features (such as the virtualization instructions or XD bit). The technical docs leave the reader with this impression; the marketing docs may be correct.

Intel Live Chat is referencing this page

This reads like a technical document from Intel. Seeing as how they have a live chat going on today (Oct. 9th) as an advertisement on Slashdot, and it keep referring to this page for more information, I imagine Intel may have edited it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.242.105.211 (talk) 18:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can we ban Intel from editing this page?

The question is more of a joke, but last year I ripped out most of the advertising jargon and replaced that banner. A few other people added good information about which specific processors support VPro. Now it's back to the way that it was with all the Intel garbage in it and no real information. I'll start editing it if I get time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumdog (talk • contribs) 17:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hardware requirements or marketing requirements?

This page mentions certain processors being needed for vPro. However, it doesn't clarify whether it's a requirement that needs to be fulfilled so that a system builder is allowed to put a "vPro" sticker on the case, or whether it's a hardware requirement without which the technical features like intel AMT simply won't work.

The question is terribly relevant, because there are -- for example -- cpus that are much cheaper than the minimum vPro 5 requirement (the fast Core2Duo cpus that are "required" vs the much cheaper intel pentium dual core cpus) that do actually have the technical features like intel VT-d and XD bit and all that fanciness. If it's only marketing, then if a system builder wants to offer intel AMT, but doesn't care about the vPro sticker, he can save lots of money by putting a slower, cheaper processor in there. 130.89.160.64 (talk) 19:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

extension of vPro functionality in 2011 Sandy Bridge chips

Intel vPro will be enabled in future (2011 onwards) Sandy Bridge chips, and will be able to disable a PC remotely and/or erase a harddrive remotely over 3G, wifi or ethernet: "Intel's 'Sandy Bridge' Chip to Include vPro Business Features" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369110,00.asp