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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 80.177.152.156 (talk) at 18:43, 9 February 2006 (→‎[[Mark Mirabello]]). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Mark Mirabello

Delete Original Autobiographic, wikified by others, still not notable. Has published three unnotable books, furthermore nothing worth mentioning at the level of importance for wikipedia. See also the discussion about one of his books at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Odin_Brotherhood for more discussion on this. Page about him from before has been deleted Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mirabello KimvdLinde 23:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC) Changed my obvious error --KimvdLinde 02:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • KEEP subject is mentioned in wikipedia by others, has notable published works yet is considered not important enough by a user happy to include a page on Drosophilidae, even though he states himself that nothing much is known about this subject, i quote "The knowledge of the phylogeny of this family is incomplete". 82.23.107.27 23:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
feel free nominate Drosophilidae for deletion. But we are not talking about me, but about the Mark Mirabello article. References to where he is mentioned are appreciated, did not find any that pointed at him when searching wikipedia --KimvdLinde 23:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Subject of article is, among other things, author of two nontrivial books published by non-vanity presses, one of which has five editions, indicating satisfaction of notability criterion for published authors. If publishing lousy books was grounds for deletion, let's start with the Jackie Collins' of the worls, and the guy who wrote the Da Vinci code nonsense. Monicasdude 23:48, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
KimvdLinde you've edited your earlier thing. that's bad. i got told off for that you know. i've never heard of mark mirabello, but clearly having 3 books published is kind of a good thing and worthy of recognition. he appears to be a professor of some repute on at least two continents and is in need of inclusion as much as your remarkable collection of studies into flies. 82.23.107.27 23:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "subject is mentioned in wikipedia by others" - dubious - only mentioned in article on The Odin Brotherhood, book by Mark Mirabello, also up for deletion. 82.23.107.27 - your case is not helped by trolling KimvdLinde, and reference to Drosophilidae is completely irrelevant to this discussion. (You won't get far if you try to say that that article is a candidate for deletion). Please try to come up with a better rationale for keeping the Mirabello articles, rather than launching ad hominems. Monicasdude comment is pretty lame too - although I agree both authors mentioned are trash, they're read by tens of millions throughout the world, so are obviously notable. (No Vote as yet) Camillus (talk) 23:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, if KimvdLinde has read the books in question then I am happy to retract my comments but as I suspect she hasn't then surely her comments that the subject in question's works are not notable and nothing worth mentioning are, as you say of another user's comments (hypocrisy eh, gotta love it) pretty lame. Not having heard of something cannot possibly be a verifiable reason for deletion in a worldwide encyclopedia. You'd have to be an ubermensch of the highest variety to KNOW and be able to comment on the notability of everything in the world. Carry on though. 82.23.107.27 00:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC) (change of sex edit btw)[reply]

Comment: I realize no one here probably cares, but the person who authored the Mark Mirabello entry Stege1 has commented at the talk page. To wit: Mark Mirabello did not write the entry as stated in the nomination for deletion. HroptR 01:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, my error. Remains nn. --KimvdLinde 02:22, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Several arguments here are ad hominems directed at me (primarily by new editors), but whether I (or the new editors for that matter) have heard of the person is irrelavant. Arguments should be independent of that. The argument that there are other comparable articles is irrelevant (they might indeed qualify for deletion as Not Notable), inclusion in Wikipedia should be based on more objective criteria, as outlined in Wikipedia:Notability_(people). Based on the criteria as a professor, I should be able to find at least a substantial number of references to his work from other scholars, such as in Web-of-Science (zero hits) or google scholar (1 or 2 hits) or google itself (found one, missed maybe some, but likely less than 5 hits). Notability as a writer, even for a subculture (who especially interact at the web) should result in substantial mentioning of the author at the web beyond book reviews, sales lists etc and that is fairly limited. I surely believe he is a nice person (based on what people write about him and from his email), and that he is liked by his students and such, but that does not make someone of encyclopedic value in my opinion, who's main entry at the page is the courses that he teaches. --KimvdLinde 14:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The guy is clearly a respected and published academic, which is more than can be said for most of the cretins who moderate this site who apparently think a Transformers convention is notable. "Judge not a man to be non-notable lest he goeth awag in a bad way on your face, mother bitch" --BCFC Dan 18:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment JEEEZZUS are we really so neanderthalic on Wikipedia that we have to use words like Spazzer!? Nigger is not acceptable, Ho Tart Bitch or whatever are not acceptable, but its still acceptable to take the piss out of people with disabilities?! a very pissed off JCUK 18:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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