Template talk:Grappling

I dramatically cut down the number of entries in the "submissions" section. The section was ridiculously huge; it included obscure submissions like the gogoplata, it included many superfluous doubles such as "armlock" "armbar" and "flying armbar", as well as several wrestling holds that are not even submissions.

The Submission article itself says that subs can be divided into three categories; joint locks, compression locks and chokeholds. This is what I had cut it down to anyway, and I think this is a good place to leave it for now. There are hundreds of submissions, we cannot possibly list them all in a box like this. Keeping it down to just the categories is best, and makes a much neater looking box. Expanding it slightly to include armlocks, leglocks, shoulder locks, spine locks etc may be warranted since there are such a huge number of jointlock submissions, and only a few compressions locks. But try to keep things neat, and don't list individual submissions when a category is already there. Harley peters (talk) 03:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

more changes

So apparently I'm the only one that changes this box.

I cut down the "general techniques" section. Like most of this box, it was a mess. Without even a good definition of "general technique" in terms of grappling I don't have a lot to go on here. The Wikipedia articles themselves on the subject are small, poorly written or non-existent. I took it down to the minimum of entries.

I removed the "General positions" section entirely. Again, I don't even know what a "general position" is as it applies to all forms of grappling. I can speak for the sort that I have training in, but I know what is "generally" used in my sport is totally absent in other forms of grappling. Again, the articles on these entries were often stub articles anyway with no real value. Even the general articles on "grappling" are very poorly written and give little help. I'm just going to keep this box as neat as possible until there is more relevant content to add. Harley peters (talk) 16:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]