Talk:Dynasty Warriors 7

Costumes

Can someone add that costumes on characters will change color depending on what force they are on? Like Zhang He in story mode with Yuan Shao, etc.

Confirmed characters not to be confirmed

Pang De and Zuo Ci not being confirmed? Zuo Ci is left to be announced, we don't know about Zuo Ci's returning yet. And also, Pang De might be confirmed as a downloadable content character. KOEI has giving hints leading to this. And Joetri10, please behave in your responses. They hurt people. (calling us morons, and OH, we don't know anything. You're wrong! You haven't seen anything I haven't seen! You're a troll)

` Kamek98

As the content is downloadable and not on the disk, they are simply not returning, Remember that not everyone has the internet on their computer systems, they shouldn’t be told they are getting something when they are not in some cases. If they do indeed come back as DLC then we should note it down someplace else and not the offical roster character list.. However all my sources has confirmed to me that both are indeed not in the game... DLC is like the extreme legends type thing... I also doubt Characters will be coming into the game as DLC. As for my responses, i simply state things as they are, if you treat people with care on something like that, they will continue to do so thinking it will be taken lightly, anyone can post on Wikipedia and thus should act responsible when editing pages, that means understand what you are putting down... The fact that the guy has weeker sources and is misunderstand solid evidence is just laughable... I am not a troll, I’m a realist, tell it like it is or get walked on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Hahaha, I wasn't calling you a troll, I was talking about the time you mistaken me as a troll. I'm sorry! I didn't notice that internet thingy. I actually do indeed have strong sources so you can keep your judging mouth shut. You know who my sources are? HUH? It's CHIN SOON SUN. The community manager of Tecmo Koei Europe. Your judging is just laughable. I'm not trying to have you put me in your hostile list, K? We're all dedicated fans here. And I'm pretty sure Pang De and Zuo Ci might be DLC. Even dedicated fans that are as realist as you tell me it's highly possible. I get the game in NA on the 29th. But by GameStop shipping, since it goes from North America west coast to east coast, I could obtain the game as early as the 24th. I will be sure to help out as much as I can. K, bye. 74.69.189.75 (talk) 21:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

'Kamek98

I get my sources from Japanese Forum Boards and The english Forum board Koei Warriors. I also Get the info from Chin Soon Sun (insp. chin) I am a very very active member on the Koei Warriors board and i note down every bit of Info i get... I know when famitsu and Websites updates are and im there when they come out (most often then not anyway) I am also getting info from Japanese Game streams (one of which is going on as we speak) My sources are much more active then yours is... Chin Soon Sun only gives info when the info is released and cannot again CANNOT give out anything Koei has not given out, meaning you must not get leaks... As for DLC, sources tell me that characters will not appear in it, however many fans choose to dismiss and ignore it because they simply dont choose to believe it... I will also repeat that DLC is not part of the main game product. If DLC is released with characters, we should update the page as that however guessing about DLC is incorrect and misleading info to readers. You getting the game will simply give nothing to this page now as its very much over anyway, if anything is not listed, i will find out Via Japan... Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

K, I'm sorry. Chin just gives me information about english version stuff. He doesn't leak the information that is a no-no to leak. Like for example, he will tell me if the game supports certain stuff, like 3D or if it will be ever released on another platform hopefully. I also know that a PC version is NOT going to be released. Thanks 74.69.189.75 (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

New info! Character like Zhang Liao will have the costume of the force he is playing in in story mode. (for example in story mode, Zhang He in Yuan Shao has yellow, and Zhang Liao in Lu Bu's forces has a black costume on) Thanks.

~Kamek98

I am well aware of that feature, i have seen Ssx and Xiahou Ba wearing green during the live streams.. I dont think that info is really relevant to be on the page but the others might disagree so they can do it if they want.

I can't add anything because my computer's cookies are trashed. (Meaning I cannot log in) I need someone to add that. 74.69.189.75 (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

` Kamek98

Xu Huang

Xu Huang has not been announced, sources would be great, thank you, and please do not add him because you want him in the game. 74.69.189.75 (talk) 20:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

^^^ That was me speaking, I didn't know I was logged off. Kamek98 (talk) 20:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

He is seen in the opening trailer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.124.196 (talk) 22:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Was he the one that Zhao Yun the chains to swing on? Kamek98 (talk) 22:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that is him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

True, true indeed,, especially cause of the fact, that XU HUANG ISN'T WITH SHU!!! Kamek98 (talk) 01:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Lmao... What? O_o... Who said he was in Shu.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

How is that Xu Huang? Why would he throw a chain to Zhao Yun to save his life? Xu Huang is Zhao Yun's enemy. I will delete that he is there until Koei announces him, that sounds fair doesn't it? 74.69.189.75 (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind Kamek98 (talk) 19:50, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

He isnt trying to save his life you moron.. He was trying to capture him and Zhao Yun used it to his advantage... No it doesnt sound fair.. Leave It Alone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Please Don't call me a moron... I realized I was wrong. I left it alone, and you shouldn't be calling people names. lol Kamek98 (talk) 22:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Article quality

It appears this article has been written by a non-native English speaker. Given the lack of information available with regards to the game and its fanbase being primarily in Japan, this is to be expected; the article itself needs to be updated, however. I will fix some of the spelling mistakes and general errors I can find. 77.103.28.19 (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the English is fine — I saw no problems with the previous edits. In addition, Koei has not released any other information regarding this game; therefore, no edits about this game can be made as for now until the 26th of October when Koei does divulge said information. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 17:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, when it says that the game will be released in europe on the 25th of march, it should say that it has been delayed until april 1st.Subject to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caststarman (talk • contribs) 02:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Cao Wenji

I think she should be noted as a new character in the series, as this is the Dynasty Warriors series and it is her first apprance in a Dynasty Warriors title game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.196.236 (talk) 15:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

She was in Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce 2. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 20:27, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Not really a DW game, just a spin off. It's debatable. Should put something to people who don't play spinoffs like myself also she is new, DWS2 doesn't have a page yet, and she's new to each game and should be noted. 82.21.196.236 (talk) 15:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Wrong. She isn't 'new'. She isn't 'new' to the series. The other characters are because they've never before been playable. Strikeforce 2 doesn't have a page yet? That doesn't justify the fact that she should be put as a new character. Make one if you're annoyed. Anyways, The series is still 'warriors'. The game was dynasty warriors. Koei produces various series, and Strikeforce 2 was part of the dynasty warriors series. Continuing to edit just to prove a point will be reported as vandalism warnings. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 22:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

are you thratening me. Strikeforce 2 isn't out yet, nor have a page. DW7 is the only current artical noting her as a new character. Untill a SF2 page is up. Beside release date for both is march 2011, meaning she's a new character to both, at the same time. So she should be noted as such. 82.21.196.236 (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2010 (UTC) Cao Whenji is confusing, as it dosne't have a release date in EU yet, from the page i've read. It seems they come out at the same time, or around. She is new to both, and I think something should show this. I myself am an avid DW fan and have played them all. With both coming out. You can't go buy a game in which you can play her, yet and so is a new character, will you can. Despite when it comes out, she is new to the series, Strikeforce or not, people need to know this is when she makes her debute.82.21.196.236 (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

In addition, i can't find a euro release date, not NA. For all we know it may be only released in Japan and China. There is a lot more info on DW7 and her, than strikeforce 2. 82.21.196.236 (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I swear it was released in japan last march? She was already playable so i guess that doesn't really make her new. 93.96.45.247 (talk) 18:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Regardless, she was a playable character in Strikeforce 2; therefore she isn't denoted as 'new'. Pay attention to why you're edits are being reverted for goodness sake. You will be blocked from editting for a while if you continue to edit just to prove a point. Do you understand? Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

My point is valid. Everyone I've asked of my mates, who are avid DW fans put her as a new character. 82.21.196.236 (talk) 22:07, 13 November 2010 (UTC) I've not seen a demo for SF2 and it is out the same time. More details follow on DW7 than SF2. She is new to both, and should be noted as such. Your way is causing confusion. Isn't wiki, to solve that and provid info on things. My info is more to the truth than yours. She is new to both games and should be noted as such. That is the only fair way to resolve this. I'm not editing to make a point, but to put for true info. As she is new to both, and their release date are around the same time. If you look at the amout of time between SF1 being released in Japan was around 4 months before UK. If that's the same with 2 she will be a new character to the UK series in DW& and this is the English WIKI. Stop threating me with banning.

Are you a fool? She was in Strikeforce 2. Pay attention for goodness sake. You're info isn't more 'truth' because she was playable before and isn't new. That's it – you'll be reported soon. Also, read what about editting on wikipedia... it doesn't matter if this is the english wiki; the game was released. You really are making a fool of yourself by the way, and the fair way to resolve this is to state true facts. I don't care what your 'mates' said, this is wikipedia, not your dynasty warriors fanbase. You edit what's correct, understand? SHE WAS IN STRIKEFORCE 2 AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER. Wow... Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

The Samurai Warriors 3 for PSP has not been made a page yet! It is in Japan! Just like DW6 PSP and DW6Empires psp! Don't know what is going on... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamek98 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Characters

I'm not sure, and currently don't have the time to do so, but I believe some character that havn't been comfermed as of yet, have been added. I COULD BE WRONG! 82.21.196.236 (talk) 22:48, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

This is what I mean when you don't know how to edit. Wikipedia is not a place for speculation. No fan sites have confirmed these characters, so stop mindlessly editting. Listen. Please remove the speculative content you added, as you've added a lot and I'm unable to properly revert it/them. Thank you. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 01:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

The edits he/she was referring to, was not done by him. I have looked at the page, and am certain the table is not meant to be at the bottom, he fixed that situation and has been scolded for it. He didn't however, check character not added by him, but someone else, and posted here asking someone to do it for him, as he was troubled with other things. Simple. I think you owe him an apology for that comment, as everyibe is to edit, to make it better. Take a look at the page, you'll see the table at the bottom, and the characters he asked someone to verify re-added and not by him. Strikeforce 2 page Here, shows what I think this guy is trying to get across, about it not being released yet for many who will read this page. There should NOT be this amount of problems over a simple thing like this. You two are acting like children. To end confusion, many who will view this page, will have no idea about Cao Wenji being in another game. I agree with being a mega DW fan, and was always in question about her being a playable character, as I have every DW game and spin-off, even DW Gundam. Being to fair, to most who read this page, we should note, that Cao Whenji's first appearance in EU or NA game will be Dynasty Warriors 7, where as for a Japanese game is Strikforce 2. This will end loads of confusion, for many who don't look up JP games. I believe this to be fair, and the only way those who are confused to understand. For everyone who views this page, will be looking up info for the EU or NA version of this game, as Japan have their own Wiki. I, and obviously the other guy are ultra fans of DW and for us, her first appearance will be in DW7 as we can't go and buy DWSF2 to play her. All I'm saying is, just a little side note, like the one that states a new character to the series, to say her first appearance in a EU or NA game will be DW7 however, her first appearance in Japan will be DWSF2. Simple and will solve many disagreements. Thank you very much for your time. If a EU or NA release date is released before DW7 we just simply remove it and, reconfigure the page. This is a real simple edit, and I'm sure the manner in which both you are speaking in, is grounds for being banned, but I'm not going to report you, we should be able to solve this no problem. I'm not to good with editing, but try my best to resolve issues like this. So could someone with advance editing skills solve this issue for me, many thanks and please reply calmly not in a tine that comes over all high and might. I'm on with the both of you, it seems as if your screaming at each other. To end problems like this, do what I do and state how your saying your words. EVERYTHING HERE I MEAN IN A CALM MANNER, AND AM NOT SHOUTING IN ANYWAY AT ALL KCDavis (talk) 16:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

You can't report me for putting correct information... or for speaking in that manner. Your english is also appalling; I bet you two are the same people. You/him were stating that she was entirely new, which she wasn't.... Anyways, you put this in the wrong section. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Please don't attack me, it's not nice. As for my English, I am a writer, studying in college, and have had raving reviews about my works. Initially I took his word for it, then decided to do the work for myself an research it. At first i found the release date to be 2011, and on further research found it to be 2010. A simple mistake, from an unreliable source. I thank you for fixing an edit, and am glad you and I plus him should all be happy. I believe all this came from a simple misunderstanding over the year. Looking it up on some sites it states 2011, not 2010. That's why my discussion started as such, then I looked closer. For us being the same person, I hope not lol. KCDavis (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

At least Devil Thunderbolt knows English pretty well. There is still a lot we don't know about for Dynasty Warriors 7. How about ending the attacks on each other's opinions and comments? Cai Wenji is new in the USA and Europe, but she is not new in Japan. End of story. Jeez, this is supposed to be a discussion, not an attack. User talk: 7GuanSamKai5Wildlife (User Talk: 7GuanSamKai5Wildlife) 21: 31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

We stopped the attacks a while back, almost two weeks. It was sorted when I noted what you just said, And what do you mean by 'At least Devil Thunderbolt knows English pretty well' I am from England, born and proud. Devil (talk) 11:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey, people! Listen up! Someone keeps adding Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, Guan Yu, Zhuge Liang, and Sun Quan as confirmed characters. Yes, Liu Bei and his brothers were shown in the trailer, but Koei DID NOT announce them, and Sun Quan and Zhuge Liang WERE NEVER announced! Edit it again and I will report an edit war. Kamek98 (talk) 21:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Lui Bei, Zhang Fei and Guan Yu are confirmed because of the video... Sun Quan was seen on the same trailor and Zhuge Liang's Fan has been seen aswell on the same trailor... They are confirmed characters... For more info, visit KoeiWarriors... Thank You... (Koei does not need to confirm then when we have already seen them you muppet..) (Joetri10) :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.105.160 (talk) 00:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Video is not source enough. A video of Assassins Creed shows main character Altair with a crossbow, yet I've played it several times and never unlocked the crossbow. However, a fan dosen't men Zhuge Liang is in it either. Now with that being said, they are in fact confirmed for the game, and my prof is here, http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw7-gameinfo.php. To end this war, this is all that need to be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devil Thunderbolt (talk • contribs) 14:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

You Idiot, Koei Warriors's got there info from the video aswell, you just said yourself the vid isnt enough proof and then credit a site that is going by the video aswell... .. And that’s just showing me what i already know and am going by!, i have already mentioned that site plenty of times. And we are not talking about Assassins Creed, That’s got nothing to do with anything... We have seen the characters, they won’t cut them (Important aswell) for no reason... And Zhuge Liangs fan is shown at a part with Shu people.. Its easily him, it’s also his fan from Dw6... Why don’t you just let me run the character bit, none of you know what you are talking about. (Apart from the one or two from the forum who does actually add to this correctly) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.105.160 (talk) 16:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

It's plain logic to think that they would be added — Liu Bei was the general of Shu for a long time, and has been included in the game for ages; as is Sun Quan. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to put the characters in the trailer, fighting against Xiahou Dun, and not include them in the game. Also, although we don't seem to have any evidence of Zhuge Liang in the game, it'd be pretty lame to remove him considering he helped in a considerable amount of battles; and the game stated that it'll extend past the battle of the Wu Zhang Plains, giving a hint that it will be in the game... would be pretty idiotic too to remove one of the most important battles as we­ll lol. Anyways what sense would it make to feature these characters as a main part of the trailer and not include 'em?
Oh yeah; thunderbolt — orginally Ubisoft had planned to put a crossbow into the game; however they ended up taking it away and replaced it in favour of throwing knives. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 16:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks YinYang, didn't know that about the crossbow. I also didn't know Koiewarriors went by the vid either, thought it was the official site, no need for the attack. And although it would be stupid to cut Zhuge Liang out, didn't they do something stupid with 6, cutting Jiang Wei all together, not even as a NPC. Devil (talk) 18:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

We shouldn't add anybody that Koei didn't announce themselves! They didn't intend them to be seen or uncovered to be in the game most likely! Let's just wait okay! Just a month or so and all the characters will be announced! Kamek98 (talk) 03:16, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I posted this on another page and il do it on here aswell to stop the pointless bickering

You want proof, here is your proof.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yuvU9gFYBQ

Xu Huang - 0:37. Lui Bei, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei - 1:11. Sun Quan - 1:02 (It showed, Cao Cao and Liu Bei, Its easily Quan). Zhuge Liang - 1:12 (That is hes feather fan)

They released the vid on there website, im pretty sure they want you to see them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Table

I've attempted to fix the table merge at the bottom but can't. I've fixed the characters, and added a rerfeance. Could someone more advance aid me, in moving the table to where it should be. Also attempted to fix the little squoble going on here. KCDavis (talk) 17:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed KCDavis (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC) Is this what you wanted to do. KCDavis (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Shin Sangoku Musou 6

I typed this in and it didn't redirect to this page. I don't know how to fix it, could someone do it please. KCDavis (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. I've added the redirect ♠♠ BanëJ ♠ ♠ 07:09, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks KCDavis (talk) 17:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Lu Bu, Diao Chan

The official Koei website has not yet published anything on the DW7 section, about these two character being part of the game. If you could please post a source stating they will be playable, would help. Many thanks. KCDavis (talk) 21:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Updated with sources. Thanks. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 23:59, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Lu Bu was not yet announced, need some resources please and thank you. Kamek98 (talk) 03:33, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Facebook

Can we use it as a reliable source, as somethings it stats are not on the official Koei site, and the Facebook page itself stats it's the unofficial, official Facebook site of Dynasty Warriors 7? Devil (talk) 13:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

You can't rely on the official site for everything, as they do not frequently update it. That's why there are many fansites that exist and a facebook page too, with real images of characters (mainly from Famitsu magazine). These are reliable sources. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 17:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I was going with, anyone could have created it. Can we prove Koei owns the page? I bring this up, cause on their site, it's added the new Jin characters, but Lu Bu hasn't been added. I want to see him on the game, but I just don't get why they'd add the others but not him on their website. Devil (talk) 11:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Koei may not own it, but the page itself does seem to be showing various images and information that are later confirmed on fansites. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

The most reliable source to go by when editing this page at the moment is the fan site Koei Warriors, which are getting there information from famitsu and Facebook (Which is indeed reliable, it is owned by Koei) the day or release... I advise anyone to edit using that website, they have a page with all the information, if it is not listed on that page, it has not been confirmed.. Thanks (^^Joetri10^^) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.105.112 (talk) 13:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Yan Baihu

Yan Baihu should be added yeahh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urmother12 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Please don’t change the page just because you want something/someone in the game... All characters from Strikeforce and Orochi (Including Fu Xi and Nu Wa) are Guest characters and Koei have announced NO Guest characters will appear.. This also includes cameos from Tecmo games such as Ryu Hayabusa.. Thanks (^^Joetri10^^) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.124.88 (talk) 12:30, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Gu Li

This isn't about DW7, but I need help! Please visit Gu Li (Wu) and help save it from speedy deletion! I tried to get it up and started, but no one is adding on or extending the page! I feel Gu Li needs to be noticed! He was in DWVol 2! Kamek98 (talk) 03:34, 1 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamek98 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Xiahou Ba

Here he is : http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6739398/1/#new Ohh and here he is again.. http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw7-cgartworks.php

He was leaked on the offical website by accident... They will not take him out just because of that...

If you want more proof of him, wait a few weeks!.. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Cool. This will stop the fight. Yinyanglightningthrash (talk) 16:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Wei Yan

There is a lot of discussion about Wei Yan's one shot image and some argue that it is indeed Wei Yan, but others argue its Guan Suo (who we have yet to see) I would like to ask the others if they would please wait untill i (or anyone else) can find solid proof that it is Wei Yan... The other one shot image we got was Pang Tong, however everyone else is certain its him. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Koei already announced "Wei Yan found" thank you very much. :) 74.69.189.75 (talk) 22:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

See, exactly what I said in the other sub section. I don't know how to work the chart good, so I'll add Wei Yan and have someone else fix the chart. This is solid proof. Kamek98 (talk) 22:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Koei has not officially announced Wei Yan or Pang Tong, they showed 2 images which was focusing more on something else then the characters featured in there... There is no solid Proof... Sad to say, i have better sources then you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

O really? In a while, I'll post the source. Thank you. You assume too much. Your assumptions will be your downfall. 74.69.189.75 (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

^^^ That's me, Kamek98 talking. Srry, wiki is not letting me log in. But seriously. You think you know everything but you don't. 74.69.189.75 (talk) 22:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Wei Yan and Pang Tong are announced. Really. I read it somewhere but I cannot find the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloudziuszek (talk • contribs) 22:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC) I Have seen Guan Suo and is happy That is was Wei Yan that was shown in the old image, even though its still very hard to see, i will list him down anyway

By the way Kamek... I also know much more then you do, save your breathe. You have nothing i have not see before relating to Dw7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say you didn't. Just don't assume too much. K? 74.69.189.75 (talk) 12:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Dian Wei

Not a new charcter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.226.32 (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Well Done You, I let it slip past when i was editing the character list, it should of been where Jia Xu was relocated to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Liu Chan is correct spelling of the son of Liu Bei.

Based on Mandarin Pinyin, the first name of Liu Bei's son is translated as "Chan". However when Taiwan adapted Pinyin recently (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin), they made some alterations on the Pinyin spelling of certain words. Like the name "Cao Cao", sometimes they perfer to spell as "Tsao Tsao". To conclude and clarify, Liu Shan is the incorrect Pinyin spelling of the name of Liu Bei's son based on the International Organization for Standardization. Liu Chan is the correct one and Koei spelled it right all along. They definitely checked the more reliable source for that knowledge.

- Billy

I love you! :P! ` Kamek98 74.69.189.75 (talk) 19:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Im not calling that info wrong but Liu Shan is the correct spelling and not Chan, I think this guy is getting his facts mixed up.

Nope, you're wrong. Based on everything I have ever researched and other people I know, the fact states that Shan is the misspelling. With the info Billy gave us, this is solid evidence that the users are misspelling Liu Chan to Liu Shan, Liu Chan is correct.

if i remember correctly, the real spelling means fool aswell, Shan is the one that means that..