User talk:Town,WP

== June 2010 ==

Comment on Pending Changes proposal

I would appreciate it if you would clarify your comment at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment February 2011. We're trying to arrive at a consensus, which is how Wikipedia normally works. It's not a poll, so just putting your name in the oppose section without a clear rationale is a bit of a problem. You indicated that "if there was a good reason [to stop the trial], it would be easily seen". However, this is in conflict with your statement that you "haven't read enough about this". There are at least a dozen reasons articulated on the page for why the trial should be stopped. Have you not read the page, or was your comment about reading referring to something else? It's fine if you have read the reasons and reject them; it's just not clear if this is the case. Thank you. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Town, you said, in your oppose, you couldn't see a clear reason - and I'm not surprised; sadly, the whole debate has got really complicated. So - let me try and give a simple, clear reason;

• June 2010, the community agreed to a 2-month trial. PC was applied to around 900 articles. At the end of the trial, PC should have been removed unless there was clear approval [1] - it was not removed.
• There's been lots of argument about it, ever since. In September, a "straw poll" got 60% support for letting it run a little bit longer, with a hard-stop date of 31 December 2010 (waiting for a new version of the software). (Poll)
• There were some updates, but not the promised 'new version'.
• Current situation: PC is on 950 articles. Nobody really knows if it can, or cannot be used. Nor can we get any agreement on that.

It's all a mess.

Personally, I think the only possible way we're ever going to sort out the mess is, to remove the current use. And then, possibly, we might be able to start proposing ideas - on how it could be used.

I honestly think that, if we don't remove it, we'll just continue arguing about this, forever.

But...the RfC is a discussion - so if you have any ideas at all, how we might resolve the deadlock, please say so - on WP:PCRFC.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  11:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

You guys should cut me a break. I asked around because I wanted to say I like PC. I don't know how saying so brings this kind of junk to my page. I feel like you're both pissed at me and all I did was say my vote. I'm not looking for enemies and if people can get mad so easy. Let's just say I get the message. Town,WP (talk) 02:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)