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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by JanHop (talk | contribs) at 10:17, 7 May 2011 (→‎May 2011). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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May 2011

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Brazil – People's Republic of China relations. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Your cited source does not support the material contained in your edits. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 14:38, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your cited source DOES NOT contain the information you are citing to it! And even if it did, it is a WP:PRIMARY source, so should not be used for the bulk of the article, per WP:PSTS. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 14:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The right citation was added, I was mistaken for another one. One could argue about some of the entries in the table, but is shows the slow process of diplomatic, and later on more economical relations. China is busy creating leverage in Latin America to secure natural resources. If my thesis is finished, I'll merge the most important (selected)part. 16:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Your "right citation" fails to verify most of the information as well. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 16:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As to the rest -- find a WP:SECONDARY source that states this conclusion, rather than expecting the reader to reach this conclusion from a mass of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:PRIMARY trivia. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 17:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right Citation

I'm working on the best citations, and my research is not yet fully complete. Within a moth or two I can cite the right scholars. But the conclusion I draw does not have to be anyone other's conclusion! However I think within the next year the Brazil-China relations will contest US hegemony in that region. (It allready does) When I have the right sources I'll put it online. Much more to come! Ideed, I merged previously present (disputed) information in the table, if you would like to propose to delete something, discussion would be possible. My I also refer to the text below.

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Word up Jan, thanks for your excellent contributions to our Brazil – People's Republic of China relations article. As you rightly say such historical information is essential to understanding a bilateral relationship, and I think the incidents you picked out were very well chosen. We can probably persuade Hrafn that the Miscellany tag can be removed, looking at their contribs they dont appear to be a specialist in IR. But they are within their rights to insist on tagging and ultimately removing contributions unless they are well paraphrased and fully verifiable. So you might have to do a bit more research if you want to be sure of your excellent contribution staying. Im not sure if you will consider it worth your time as it can take folk a while to get used to our editing norms even if they are proficient academics. But of course we'd very much like you to stay! Anyway sorry your welcome wasnt as friendly as it might have been, hope you like the kitten. FeydHuxtable (talk) 19:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for your comment Feyd! I used Wikipedia for verifying if informtion I want to use and check what is available on the internet, and I want to help expanding knowledge into the world. As an IR scholar, I think primairy sources are much more valuable than secondary ones. Good citation is important, but my membership has not even been 24 hours and there's still a lot to learn. The Brazil-China relations are becoming more important and I would like to contribute more in the future. Thanks for the kitten, it really cheers up!

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